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I'm in love:

http://www.houser-racing.com/images/235902hr.jpg

If it makes it wider it wont fit my trails!!!!

i will take out a small loan ( no lie ) after my quad is paied off and my laptop is paied off, and i will get extended arms and shocks all the way around iam doing this and if its to wide for trails no biggie ill be king of the dirt roads and fields

LOL, Thats the people I poke fun at for ridin "Grandpa's feilds" but its a ATV and that is a type of terrian. Just hackin on ya.

Good point I wouldn't want my quad any wider in the rear either for the tight stuff I like to go in.

oh i got your grandpa..... once i get wide, and every thing tuned in.... ill grandpa all day long hahaha...... widen the xx with razrs and fox shocks on all corners and i bet it would be one absolute beast

Yes it would. I would like to have those new fox shocks (the cheaper ones) make it handle sooooooooo much better.

yeah thats what i want the cheeper ones..... but the front end would be soooooo much lighter i would be doing wheelies way more now

I like the unexpected wheelies, thier the best, like when U go into a corner and half way through u pick up the gas and she stands on the rears!!! Whooo Hooooo!!!!

we like to call that "nutty sh*t" lol...... i like the ur side by side with ur friend and you both jam on the gas and it comes up wheelies

I like the unexpected wheelies, thier the best, like when U go into a corner and half way through u pick up the gas and she stands on the rears!!! Whooo Hooooo!!!!

HAHA this happened to me a few times on the first day of riding after getting my new pipe and controller. Only problem was sometimes i still needed to keep turning and about got some trees while on two wheels.

HAHA this happened to me a few times on the first day of riding after getting my new pipe and controller. Only problem was sometimes i still needed to keep turning and about got some trees while on two wheels.


HA!

If you only could see half of my tight trail video I shot.

Tight turn.
Throttle on.
Hook up.
Wheelie.
Branches in face.

I really hate how Houser insist on this +0.75" crap.......

Too wide for a real cross country setup and not wide enough for a wide open desert setup.......

I see this setup as good quality and I have no doubt that they would be better than stock but I see the Houser +.75" as good everywhere but great nowhere. If I'm spending that kind of money I want great not good.

Give me Roll Design up front and Sonic out back.

Linc

yea i was wondering that also.... why only +0.75"???? I'm used to seeing from +1 to even one time when i saw a +4 out in the dunes.... i don't know, weird

what are you talking about what the .75 about ?

Its only 3/4 of an inch wider than stock.......

so in that case whats the big deal about "extended" a arms if they arent much wider ? save money and time and just get wheel spacers

no, no, no.... wheel spacers and extended a arms do not compare.... you don't get more wheel travel from spacers... the extended arms with the right shock set up could do great damage.. the .75 is just weird to what some of us are used to seeing, but it is an awesome luxury to have on the XX....

The Roll Design LT front end is +2" and the Sonic rear is +1" wide and +1" back also. You will find that most LT setups are at least +2".

In Housers defence their website does say its the "narrow" setup but it's the only thing they offer.

The Roll Design are +2.5" wider each side and 1" forward and use 20" shocks the same as a TRX450R. They are designed to be used with 4+1 wheel instead of a 4.5+1.5 stock wheels. This will bring the front end back in 0.5" each side.
The Sonic rear is 1" wider each side and 1" back. The standard rear wheels are 5+2 x 11" but i have opted for some Hiper 4.5+3 x 10" which has made the quad an extra 1" each side too.
This means front 4" wider, rear 4" wider and wheelbase 2" longer. I'm just waiting for the shocks to arrive now.

With the Houser set up on the front you could use 3+2 front wheels and you would get a total extra width of 2.5".

unless one of you came to my house and walked me threw it, its all sounding chinese to me

I personally think Houser has the right set-up as far as width goes for desert racing. Having ridden with other set-ups, I know Housers stuff works way better.

Wider is not always better. Sure it gives you a little more high speed stability but you will not notice this as much as you would think for the limited amount of high speed straits you run in the desert. I like the width Houser has chosen for their arms. The rears are made to match up with the fronts and the fronts work great.

It works out great because you can pick your way through rocks and bushes without having the tires catch. Housers front arms also help the steering so much it is hard to explain. It makes it feel like the quad is on rails when cornering. The 700xx with Houser arms is also the most stable quad I have ever ridden, both high speed and low speed.

Houser has also spent the time looking at the suspension travel and rates. The arms do not have as much travel as some of the more extended arms but I honestly can't tell when riding. It is not about the quantity of travel, it's about the quality. You can have all the travel in the world but if they don't work then it does you no good. Housers arms work awesome and you can tell they did their homework when building the arms.

I have seen the rear arms first hand and am looking forward to trying them out soon. If they are anything like the front arms, they are going to be great and work better than anything else out there.


Heck I like the Houser stuff so much I even bought the arms for my own personal quad and removed the "other" arms I had on it! I had no reason to spend the money other than I knew the difference the Houser stuff made. :hey:

will extended arms ( houser arms ) kill my trail riding ? i do alot of it ( and open dirt roads ) and i dont want somthing thats going to make my quad crazy wide just wide enough for stability on the open roads and i like the " maximum ground clearance" of the houser arms

my friend has an ltr 450 and some times he is a little to wide for the trails

these are a sweet set up and are less than the sonic and are the same if not better quality. saving up for them will still be a chore but will be worth it i think.

these are a sweet set up and are less than the sonic and are the same if not better quality. saving up for them will still be a chore but will be worth it i think.

Do you own both sets or is this only your opinion?

I have nothing against Houser. I have ran and still do have 4 quads kitted out from head to foot with everything they make and have been satisfied for years even though they cut corners at time. Their coatings a certainly nowhere near as good as they were 5 years ago when their logo was put on first and coated over in a lot tougher coating instead of the current sticker idea and arms that chip more easily.
I have just fitted a Houser +1 stem to my 700xx which I am satisfied with and the only reason I didn't go with the Houser a-arm set up was that Roll Design/Sonic set up which is wider and longer suited what I'm doing better.
I Have to admit i was a little worried about the quality of products from a company I had never heard of (ie Sonic) but when their rear arms and rear anti roll bar arrived I can see that they are of high quality and look to be engineered well.
However I still wouldn't like to put my neck on the line and say one is better than the other but can only say in my opinion I am very satisfied with Houser and Sonic!

this is an opinion on the xx. have run it on 450r and worked very good. i wasnt trying to say any thing bad about sonic the have high quality stuff too. the only thing that made me leary of sonic was there pics it did not look that professional to me having such a dirty quad when displaying the new product. and i am just a fan of keeping parts the same such as having both front and rear suspension the same brand

For what it's worth I have tested the 700xx @ 50'' wide with a 4/1 off set wheel, that is what we tried when we first got the quad from Honda. The reason we did 50'' wide is because that is what everybody has done. So after testing and racing a half of a season @ 50'' wide, I was talking to Bruce O at Honda and he talked me in to testing the quad @ 48'' wide. So I had the guys at Houser make me a set for that width and after testing the quad at 48'' wide you realize what a difference it makes, all of the sudden the quad felt way lighter and turned a whole lot better and most of all you can charge through stuff a whole lot faster and with more confidence than before. The 50'' thing works good on a moto x quad, and we all know this is not a moto x quad. For example, almost all the top WORCS racers run there quads at 50'' wide and at the last race Chris Borich went back there and won by a good margin on a quad that was setup a lot narrower than anyone elses. Don't get me wrong, the guy also has a lot of talent, but now all the guys that he beat are wondering about their setup. So what I am saying is before any of you jump on the 50'' band wagon and start moving the front arms 1'' forward and the rear arms 1" further back, just remember you still have to turn the thing at the end of the straight-a-way.

trust me... he, ^^^^^^, knows what he's talking about

trust me... he, ^^^^^^, knows what he's talking about

I'm skeptical..... I would have to ride with him to be convinced!!

HAHA.... if you can keep up with him... or Josh.. since they both run Houser