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: headlights for XX / stator wattage?


5W0P3
12-03-2008, 04:54 PM
What bulb is in the headlight? Looking for HID replacements. also, how many watts does the stock stator put out?

smo0oth1
12-03-2008, 05:13 PM
HID's draw less watts than standard bulbs

5W0P3
12-03-2008, 05:27 PM
HID's draw less watts than standard bulbs

Yeah, but I need to know which bulb is in the XX so i can get the HID replacement :D

OzLinc
12-03-2008, 05:52 PM
HID's draw less watts than standard bulbs

Wrong........a 35w HID will pull??????? guess what.........35watts; same as stock........pretty sure its 35w.

The fact that a 35w HID globe will be brighter than a 35w Halogen has nothing to do with the amound of stator power needed. One thing a HID will do is draw alot more from the stator during start-up. Its just a fraction of a second but it can actually draw more than your stock wiring can handle.

At a guess the 700XX will have 2 x 35watt globes and a PIAA H6M would be a good cheap substitute. The H6M draws about the same wattage as stock but puts out nearly twice the lighting power.

Linc

smo0oth1
12-03-2008, 06:57 PM
Actually I'm not but may could have been more clear about it. Of course a 35W HID will draw 35W but the lumens will be much much higher. So he could actually get a HID kit that draws less power but is much brighter. The bit on the amp draw is a bit overboard also since we are being technical about it. If the stock bulb is a 35w a 35w HID will not burn up the wiring.

scuzz
12-04-2008, 10:32 AM
Make a how-to on it and you will have my personal admiration.

5W0P3
12-04-2008, 12:16 PM
I'm thinking i might try those PIAA bulbs first, as their cheaper than an HID kit and just plug and play.... we'll see... i'll take pics if i do it.

scuzz
12-04-2008, 01:48 PM
Someone order this guy a club700xx.com home edition.

OzLinc
12-04-2008, 04:55 PM
This guys name is Rich and his kit is supposed to be about the best going. I would think the TRX450ER kit would work fine but contact him coz he'll know.

http://simpleracing.com/v1/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=35&osCsid=e503d4a1808be217ff9707a2037c671a

All reports indicate this kit is reliable and very high performing. It comes with a HD wire harness.

5W0P3
12-06-2008, 01:31 AM
FYI...

To get to the lightbulbs is very easy. Take off the red or gray plastic, the obvious 6 hex head (5mm i think) bolts take them out. Then a 10mm bolt is tucked in, inside the fender on each side and the headlight assembly will twist out very easily.

I took mine apart tonight just to see how easy it was... very.

the_hawk
02-19-2009, 09:41 AM
what is the bulb is it an h7 h6 ect ect or just a standered 35wt bulb ?

smo0oth1
02-19-2009, 10:32 AM
I believe its a standard 35watt, I know for a fact its 35 watt but if its some sorta special base i'm not to sure. I'll post a pic in a few

OzLinc
02-19-2009, 06:19 PM
I believe stock is a H6M.....someone with a manual will have to confirm.

Chrisj
02-20-2009, 12:32 AM
It's a H6M. I've had the PIAA's for about 4 months now. I'm doing the HID's but not sure if I want to do the TrailTech ones on the bars. I hate out driving my headlights at night.

scuzz
02-20-2009, 08:22 AM
It's a H6M. I've had the PIAA's for about 4 months now. I'm doing the HID's but not sure if I want to do the TrailTech ones on the bars. I hate out driving my headlights at night.


Guys, check this out:

http://www.trx450r.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=68554

I know this pic is not a honda but the raptor uses the same H6M bulbs. This is the $80 shipped, HID kit off of ebay. The only thing needed that does not come with the kit is a relay which is only like $3. The amount of light output is incredible. This is with the 6000k bulbs. I can't wait to try the lights out at the dunes.

Pic:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/gwwaddle/rappyHID.jpg

Ebay link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Slim-HID-Xenon-Kit-5000K-HB3-D2S-H4-H6m-880-881-H1-H6_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a570Q7c66Q3a2Q7 c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1 94Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem330290 632436QQitemZ330290632436QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTrcQf artsQ5fAccessories

the_hawk
02-21-2009, 05:20 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Pairs-of-H6M-Super-Bright-Xenon-Bulb-Honda-TRX400R_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35594QQihZ002QQ itemZ120374527417QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW


try these out

OzLinc
02-21-2009, 07:23 PM
It's a H6M. I've had the PIAA's for about 4 months now. I'm doing the HID's but not sure if I want to do the TrailTech ones on the bars. I hate out driving my headlights at night.


So what do you think of the PIAA's?.......

5W0P3
04-02-2009, 01:13 AM
What do you guys do about the High beam bulb?!

RacerX901
04-02-2009, 11:52 PM
well does anyone know what the stator is putting out?

smo0oth1
04-03-2009, 06:06 AM
HID's draw less power than conventional lights, The stator output shouldn't be a problem. With fuel injection and electric start it should be pretty stout for durability

RacerX901
04-03-2009, 05:54 PM
i want to know stator power to see if i can run hid trail tech bar mount lights and hids in stock location at same time............

scuzz
04-03-2009, 06:13 PM
Alternator capacity according to the service manual (section 1-10) is 290w/5,000 rpm.

Headlight max wattage (same information source) = 30watts x2.

Chrisj
04-03-2009, 09:20 PM
I just bought a set. I'll be the guinea pig.lol

OzLinc
04-05-2009, 11:26 PM
ProArmour just released a HID kit for the 700XX........$250 ouch

I'm sure it's good though.

smo0oth1
04-06-2009, 06:07 AM
I'd pay 250 if it's a quality Ballast and all

Chrisj
04-06-2009, 02:08 PM
I'd pay 250 if it's a quality Ballast and all


I've bought numerous sets over the years and the $100.00 ebay ones worked just as good, if not better then the big names. I always silicone the ballasts up and have had no problems. I have a $450.00 set on the big bike and it has had more problems then the cheap one.

smo0oth1
04-06-2009, 05:14 PM
I've installed many of the cheap and expensive ones, 250 is about average and the most I would personally spend. I have had cheap ones last but have also had them crap out. I just try not to waste money anymore trying to figure out which cheap work. Most of the kits I have now or OEM ballast from toyota's Lexus etc. Can't go wrong with them and usually run about 250 with bulbs

scuzz
04-17-2009, 03:46 PM
Wireing color code from Jeff:

Green = neg
White = low beams
Blue = high beams

white and blue are both 12 volts

scuzz
04-17-2009, 03:46 PM
Jeff will follow with pictures


:D

5W0P3
04-18-2009, 12:34 AM
My write up on installing HIDs in the 700xx!

http://club700xx.com/vb/showthread.php?t=817

ceballos
04-26-2009, 09:01 PM
Alternator capacity according to the service manual (section 1-10) is 290w/5,000 rpm.

Headlight max wattage (same information source) = 30watts x2.


so how the other guy asked... "stock HIDs" will work well WITH trailtech HIDs??? doing a night race soon, and don't have $1K for those big ol' baja lights

smo0oth1
04-26-2009, 09:30 PM
Stock? Not understanding the question

ceballos
04-27-2009, 05:48 PM
hid replacement bulb in stock location...