: 400 EX Rider with a question about the XX
SC Rider 12-23-2008, 09:11 PM Help guys.
I ride an 07 400 ex. I am considering purchasing a 700xx, but not totally convinced I'll be satisfied . I love my ex, It's an awesome ride, but some of the trails down here in South Carolina are brutal on the skid plate.
My question is how does the XX compare to the 400 ex as far as jumping and riding wheelies. Thanks guys .Your feedback is appreciated.
5W0P3 12-23-2008, 09:15 PM I've never had a 400 but... the XX to me is a tad nose heavy, but rides wheelies pretty good. If you're worried about the bottom of it, PRM makes a full skid for $199. I'm probably bout to pick up one for mine. I rode this weekend behind a LTZ400 Suzuki and I was on his ass pretty good. As far as power and straightline a 400 doesn't hold a straw to one of these. The IRS makes it handle like a vette on dirt. I love it. Also, the ground clearance is AWESOME! about 11" of clearance! Same as a grizzly or something along those lines.
SC Rider 12-24-2008, 07:51 AM Thanks 5WOP3. That certainly helps.
Anyone else? Come on guys help me make up my mind.
XC_XX 12-24-2008, 08:52 AM If your looking for alot more torque and power then youll love the XX. It's got alot more overall speed too.
Yes it has more ground clearance too for real rocky stuff but a solid rear axle quad will still outhandle it, its just that the XX will be a more comfortable ride and wont beat you up as bad.
I would call it more of a souped up caddy on the trails then a vette.
400ex is easier to maintain a wheelie and flies easier in the air since you can control it easier because of the lighter weight.
I love it tho for trailriding, im sure you would too.
trailin'me 12-24-2008, 09:35 AM i dunno about the easier to maintain a wheelie or handling v. 400ex statement. I think both statements are relative to your riding style and ability to adapt.... ex. you dont drive a top fuel dragster the same as an indy car.
if you can keep the 700xx moving and learn how to use the throttle instead of braking it will out-perform most any 400/450 on the market in turning/cornering ...because while they are sliding you hook up and go.
Ill agree with the jumping part half-way ... again you jump it different ... you can hit jumps with waaaay more speed and not be so worried about casing the landings ...even landing off-camber and this sucks it up and says mmmm more.
Lastly ..whoops ... there is not a solid axle machine on the planet that can even come close to the xx ability to full-throttle across whoops ..even off camber while turning.
I've found it very very easy to keep a consistantly faster pace in 2nd or 3rd gear without very much work at all.. compared to the smaller kiddie feeling 400/450's ... mainly due to the enormous amount of torque and power....
the handling is very very dependent on the tires ... and once you put some 11inchers on the rear with some razr2's or razr's on the front ... youll fully enjoy and appreciate what this machine is capable of.
5W0P3 12-24-2008, 10:50 AM Oh... and the XX has reverse :D a must have for trails IMO.
smo0oth1 12-24-2008, 12:38 PM SC Rider- Riding wheelies I find is no different and actually a bit easier with the added torque. Jumps Are fine also and allot more comfortable on landings. The bike is well balanced and jumps/lands straight.
5W0P3- You may be sitting to forward or not gassing it enough on the jumps for it to feel nose heavy.
XC-XX- In my opinion there is no way a SA will out ride a IRS machine. It takes a different driving style to take advantage of the IRS and will become the thing to have once it is acknowledged and familiarized with the quad community. IRS grips the ground like glue!
TrailinMe, I Agree. It awesome to just power through all the trails in 2nd and 3rd gear, the power range is beautiful.
scuzz 12-24-2008, 03:09 PM Having gone from a 400EX to a 700xx, I can tell you it was way worth it. I sold my modded 400EX after getting left behind (so to speak) by my buddies with 700r's and 525XC's. I'm a big guy at 6'6" and 255 pounds (depending on how close it is to the Holidays) and the 700xx suites me a LOT better. I like the added power and ground clearance that it gives me.
Funny thing is that I was actually in the Honda shop for a 450r and wasn't even considering a 700xx. Once you get on a rutted out trail or land on a off-camber, or uneven landing you'll be sold. Also going down or up very technical trails that would force a SRA's bars into a tree or other obstacle.
I have had zero problems with mine in the 9 months that I have had my 700xx.
Here's a picture of both:
400EX (duh)
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/gwwaddle/400EX/100_4994.jpg
700xx:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/gwwaddle/TRX700XX/100_7059.jpg
5W0P3 12-25-2008, 02:24 AM 5W0P3- You may be sitting to forward or not gassing it enough on the jumps for it to feel nose heavy.
I PROMISE I ride to far foward, but its only so I can reach the handle bars. That black piece of plastic between the gas tank cap and the seat is now definitely wore.
SC Rider 12-25-2008, 07:00 AM 5wOP3 You must be short. I am also short . I am 5' 5" 155 lbs. Will this bike be to big.
Maybe I'll go to the dealer for a test ride.
5W0P3 12-25-2008, 09:12 AM 5wOP3 You must be short. I am also short . I am 5' 5" 155 lbs. Will this bike be to big.
Maybe I'll go to the dealer for a test ride.
I'm 5'5" as well.
SC Rider 12-28-2008, 08:06 AM Thank everyone for your feedback. Went to the dealer yesterday and came home with my new 700 xx. Wow this thing is unreal. I had no idea it had so much power and torque. I just thougt my 400 was bad. Can't wait to get this monster on the trails. I did get to ride it down the street a couple of times and wow, it's awesome.
5W0P3 12-28-2008, 10:12 AM Thank everyone for your feedback. Went to the dealer yesterday and came home with my new 700 xx. Wow this thing is unreal. I had no idea it had so much power and torque. I just thougt my 400 was bad. Can't wait to get this monster on the trails. I did get to ride it down the street a couple of times and wow, it's awesome.
Welcome to the Club! Glad we were able to let you see the light!
scuzz 12-28-2008, 11:17 AM Congratulations!
I'll be posting some vids of my ride this past Friday. (When I get back to Austin.)
You'll be amazed at what these can do!
5W0P3 12-28-2008, 11:19 AM You'll be amazed at what these can do!
Woohoo more video!
SC Rider 12-28-2008, 11:36 PM Can someone please exsplain to me how to post pics. I can't seem to get them to post.
5W0P3 12-28-2008, 11:41 PM Can someone please exsplain to me how to post pics. I can't seem to get them to post.
use the "img" tag.
you can also click the mountain with yellow sky and a moon icon.
this is the proper syntax - replace "!" with "i"
[!mg]http://www.yoururl.com/whatever.jpg[/!mg]http://www.url.com/whatever.jpgUse photobucket to host the pics, thats where you upload them. They give you nice easy links you can copy/paste into the forum.
SC Rider 12-29-2008, 12:06 AM Thanks man. Maybe I'll figure it out.
SC Rider 12-29-2008, 12:16 AM http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr234/redrider-photo/100_0331.jpgHere http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr234/redrider-photo/100_0330.jpg
SC Rider 12-29-2008, 12:19 AM Sorry date is wrong on the digital camera
5W0P3 12-29-2008, 12:19 AM There ya go!
Looks good!
SC Rider 12-29-2008, 12:21 AM Preciate the help man ! Love this site
5W0P3 12-29-2008, 12:26 AM Preciate the help man ! Love this site
Me too. This one is definitely better than the other sites (trx700xx.net) and exriders.com in my opinion.
I always try to get people over here.
SC Rider 12-29-2008, 12:36 AM Definetly better than exrider.com. By the way Happy birthday!
5W0P3 12-29-2008, 12:38 AM Definetly better than exrider.com. By the way Happy birthday!
haha Thank you! I except PayPal donations for the XX!
SC Rider 12-29-2008, 12:53 AM Hey I here that!
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