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: Ride report....Sonic Anti-roll bar


Dave01
01-24-2009, 06:38 PM
Finally got out today, but just for a little while. I can honestly say that the install of the Sonic arm made a huge difference in the handling of my 700.
Its not like a straight axle, thank god, but does turn better and still has the nice ride of the IRS setup.
I need to readjust my shocks now to compensate for the stiffer rear end.
I actually got to play on the berms some instead of launching up and over them. Tomorrow will be a better test and on Tuesday, I am taking the stock shocks with me to do a complete ride test with stock suspension and the Sonic arm..........Stay tuned...............

So far, 2 thumbs up to SONIC for thier product

scuzz
01-24-2009, 07:21 PM
Excellent!

Great job Sonic!

trailin'me
01-24-2009, 11:55 PM
im just as excited ... even moreso when you mount those razrs!

Dave01
01-25-2009, 12:43 AM
im just as excited ... even moreso when you mount those razrs!

Me too. So far, it feels like a completly different quad. And its just gonna get better.

Sonic
01-25-2009, 01:09 PM
Dave01,

I'm glad you had a great test ride with our anti roll system. Now that your rear is more stable softening the shocks is a good idea. You no longer need stiff shocks to control your sway in the corner. You can now let the shocks do their job and let the anti roll do its as well.

trailin'me,
I have completed the front anti roll components completed so Monday I will be sending it out for your testing. I'm excited to get a ride report of the whole package and not just the rear.

Dave01
01-25-2009, 01:17 PM
I will be getting on the list for a front system as soon as I save a few more bucks. If it works even half as good as the rear setup does, it will be fantastic...... Thanks Sonic for putting the R&D in on such a great product.

Dave01
01-25-2009, 01:20 PM
Another short day of riding, but I am getting closer with te suspension settings. On Tuesday, we plan on swapping the stock shocks back on for a good test on a stock quad. Just the feeling I have now, but I think the difference from all stock to stock/Sonic setup will be like night and day. No comparison at all.I'm not into jumping, but one of my friends did a little and the quad really handles the off center landings better. No more bouncing to one side. That may have been from my rear shocks being stiff too.

TRX_Sixpac_700xx
01-25-2009, 08:05 PM
I was wondering exactly what I need for a full system for the rear sway bars for the XX. I am definitely interested in purchasing it sometime, but I'm not for sure if I need 1-10 or not.

Sonic Edge Anti-roll System Spare Parts List
callout Part # Description Price 1
sw001R0 A-arm Clamp Assembly specify 1.25",1",7/8",3/4" diam upper a-arm $ 65.00 2
sw002.1R0 8" Torque Arm 4position $ 59.00 2
sw002.2R0 9" Torque Arm 7position $ 65.00 2
sw002.3R0 700xx Rear Torque Arm $ 59.00 3
sw003R0 Over Tube $ 59.00 4
sw004R0 Right Bar Mount $ 25.00 5
sw005R0 Main Support Tube $ 35.00 6
sw006R0 Torsion Bar $ 90.00 7
sw007R0 Left Tube Mount $ 25.00 8
sw008R0 RH 3/8 Rod End $ 10.00 9
sw009R0 Link specify length 1/8" Increments $ 20.00 10
sw010R0 LH 3/8 Rod End $ 10.00

Dave01
01-25-2009, 08:23 PM
I'm not sure what was included by looking at the part numbers. It seems like the parts list is for both the front and some of the rear parts. A quick call to them and they can answer any questions. They are great with customer support. I do have a little tip for mounting the rear arm. Once the stock one has been removed, bolt the 2 clamps that will be holding the tube in place, without mounting the tube. Measure the distance between the clamps and then measure the tube. Put 2 marks on the tube, so you can be sure it is centered when you do the final install. I didnt do this and had to work to get a pair of micrometers in there to get the bar centered.
Just a heads up for anyone mounting the rear system

Sonic
01-26-2009, 02:26 PM
The part numbers on our website apply if you are looking to purchase spare parts. If your purchasing a full assembly you don't have to worry about the parts list. Just let us know what you need the bar for and we will take care of the rest.

I would suggest centering the main support tube with a tape measure before you assemble the rest of the anti roll bar.

Next time I have a 700xx in the shop (which will be a week or two when I get the axles back for the rear a-arm kit) I will measure the width and put marks on the tubes for centering.

hpfreek
01-26-2009, 03:24 PM
post up some pics of these rear a arms

Dave01
01-26-2009, 03:32 PM
I was riding around on the pavement, which I almost never do, and even on the hard asphalt, the quad turns so much better. The front end push is almost all gone, and I think with the stock shocks, it would be gone. I still am playing with my Elka's for fine tuning.
I can actually turn at slow speed without sliding the front tires

vfm2010
01-27-2009, 10:17 AM
That's good news to hear. $500 is far better then spending a couple thousand, I stand here a changed man. Looks like I will be saving up for a new sway bar in the late spring or summer.

Dave01
01-27-2009, 10:48 AM
That's good news to hear. $500 is far better then spending a couple thousand, I stand here a changed man. Looks like I will be saving up for a new sway bar in the late spring or summer.

I was just as skeptical as most about if it would work or not, but after checking out thier website and seeing the article in the magazine about the IRS Raptor, I just had to try one out.
Plus, as you said, the price is right too.

trailin'me
01-30-2009, 02:58 AM
andy sent me an entire set ... got them today ... ill be putting the rear on first as you have dave ... following with the front installation ... appreciate the heads up on the installation.

i cannot wait for the rear a-arms ..should be next week.... gonna try some custom axis rear air shocks.... mostly to cut down on weight ..with sonic rear and the custom axix shocks ..should shave another 15lbs off the machine :)

and side note ... fellas ... he sent them to me on trust ... should say much about the guy and his business ethics .... and is building rear a-arms because we asked him to... so i hope some yall pick some of his stuff up.

smo0oth1
01-30-2009, 07:30 AM
I will be purchasing a set of the A-arms!

Trailinme... You looking to sell your elkas/fox rear shocks?

Sonic... Do you know if the new a-arms are will be lighter than stock? I'm not really worried about it but was jus wondering. Is there any other alloy the axle could be made of that would shed weight?

scuzz
01-30-2009, 08:24 AM
Titanium. Bling. Bling.

smo0oth1
01-30-2009, 08:33 AM
*affordable

BiFfMaN
01-30-2009, 11:50 AM
Good to hear about the sway bar.....My intial thoughs on the stock unit was that it was not stiff enough for a Tall 230 pound rider such as myself. Plus the lack of adjustability on the stocker has myself also in the market for a new rear sway.

Dave01
01-30-2009, 12:06 PM
Good to hear about the sway bar.....My intial thoughs on the stock unit was that it was not stiff enough for a Tall 230 pound rider such as myself. Plus the lack of adjustability on the stocker has myself also in the market for a new rear sway.

The swaybar setup is awesome. I'm 215 lbs and now when I climb on the quad, i can stand with both feet on one side of the nerf and the quad only moves a bit, but on the trail, the IRS is still working great

trailin'me
01-30-2009, 03:24 PM
I will be purchasing a set of the A-arms!

Trailinme... You looking to sell your elkas/fox rear shocks?

Sonic... Do you know if the new a-arms are will be lighter than stock? I'm not really worried about it but was jus wondering. Is there any other alloy the axle could be made of that would shed weight?

i only have stock rear shocks ... fox doesn't have any that will fit the rear and im not interested in coil-over designs... which is why im getting some custom axis rear airs.

smo0oth1
01-30-2009, 03:33 PM
O, I thought you had some aftermarket ones.

scuzz
01-30-2009, 03:38 PM
O, I thought you had some aftermarket ones.


I think he does, just on the front.

Sonic
01-31-2009, 02:13 PM
I will be purchasing a set of the A-arms!

Trailinme... You looking to sell your elkas/fox rear shocks?

Sonic... Do you know if the new a-arms are will be lighter than stock? I'm not really worried about it but was jus wondering. Is there any other alloy the axle could be made of that would shed weight?

We expect the axles to arrive the end of the week. I will be working to finish the first set and post some pictures by the end of the week.

I believe our upper a-arms are slightly lighter and I think the lowers are as well. I will check before I do the assembly but it will be close. The largest weight savings you will get in your suspension will be in the Shocks. The stock shocks are pretty heavy.

We could make the axles a little lighter if we used 300M material and if they were gun drilled but the cost would go up significantly and the savings wouldn't be dramatic.

Sonic
01-31-2009, 02:18 PM
I forgot to add,

I am going to be making some how to youtube videos and post then in the XX garage and on our website. That should help with assembly of our products. Their are a few tricks to completing the rear assembly. Also, the front anti roll bar could use some explanation.

Dave01
01-31-2009, 02:20 PM
I forgot to add,

I am going to be making some how to youtube videos and post then in the XX garage and on our website. That should help with assembly of our products. Their are a few tricks to completing the rear assembly. Also, the front anti roll bar could use some explanation.

Sounds good. I'm almost ready for the front end setup...Dave

trailin'me
02-01-2009, 04:20 AM
ive been busy bartering with a kawasaki dealer for a 250hp jetski lol.. gonna have another toy soon... so rain sleet or shine ill have something to ride!

superbowl tomorrow...so i wont put the stuff on then ..im guessing monday... if the weather holds up.

i tried to call a few times andrew ... ill call again on monday.

Dave01
02-01-2009, 06:15 AM
We have had some good rain in the past few days, so I am going out in a few hours for a whole day of testing and tuning. Gonna be a good time with a high in the 60's.

trailin'me
02-01-2009, 08:15 AM
im jealous

Dave01
02-01-2009, 02:22 PM
5 hours on the 700 today, mostly in the sand pit and on trails. What a great improvement with the anti-roll and the Razr tires. Donuts, no problem.
Berms, no problem.
Flat track oval, no problem.

I can actually say today was the most fun I have had since i bought this quad. I let 3 others ride it and they all had good things to say about the handling. One of my friends has been there since I bought the 700 and has ridden it after each change i have made. Good source of unbiased feedback.

Awesome product from Sonic, for sure.
Cant wait for the front set-up now.