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: Teixeira Tech CXC Uppers Review, Installation and Pictures.


92K1500
03-28-2011, 09:47 PM
Cant decide if you want to drop the coin on the CXC upper arms?

Maybe this will help you.

Review:

At first glance they look a lot nicer than the stock arms. Feel nice and sturdy.

Installation was a breeze. Setup was a little time consuming but not terrible.

First ride impressions: Turns 1000.5% better, feels fine.

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab12/Silver350Z/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0042.jpg

Was barely on the throttle (didn't have grease in the bearings yet so I wasn't being rough with it) and it will turn like a solid axle now.

Lightly dragging the front brakes and shifting my weight I could almost pivot around the front inside tire doing donuts on grass. Something I could never do before. It would always try to pop a wheelie.

First race with them:

Not having much seat time on them I was kind of leary going into my first race (Cross Country) with the arms. But after about half a lap I soon found out I LOVE THEM!!!!

They make the front end feel a little light but it turns sooooo much better you would never think it was possible from a XX.

I made some turns that solid axles couldn't even make. They seem to help the tires grab and pull the front end around instead of pushing through the turn.

After the first lap it was like riding around on a couch through the woods and it turns like it should have from the factory. And jumping wise it didn't change a thing.

I can't comment on the high speed/desert style riding though. I only have experience with them in the tight trails of XC.

Installation:

Couldn't be easier to install.

Put the front end up on a jack stand to let both front tires hang freely and remove both front tires.

Unbolt the brake line clamps from the upper arms and pull the brake line out of the hook, but leave it attached to the caliper.

I found it easier to remove the bolts at the frame first, so remove both of them and set them aside as you will need them later.

Then get the cotter pin out in whatever fashion you wish. (I just broke it at the eyelet part and pulled them out in two pieces) Then remove the nut and toss it aside.

Next get the arm moved to where you can pull up on it and take a hammer to hit the sides of the spindle around the ball joint. Doesn't take much effort so don't go King Kong on it. May have to move back and forth from side to side once or twice. My left side came out with two hits, the right took about 5.

If you want to keep the stock arms for spares, put the nuts back on the ball joints and put them in a place where you wont lose them. If you don't want them put them on here or eBay or something.

Get out your new arms, put your ball joints in them with the small nut and toothed washer on the ball joint side, and the other toothed washer and large lock nut on the frame side.

Make sure you have the correct side (I put one on upside down first) and slip the ball joint into the spindle. Then put the washer (if there is one, I don't remember) and lock nut on, and tighten it down to seat the ball joint and make sure it wont wobble around.

Next put the other ends in their holders and install the bolts you set aside from earlier.

For the brake lines you can either use aftermarket holders (Teixeira Tech makes some as well as many others) or do as I did and just use zip ties.

Adjusting:

This can get time consuming but once you get it done it's well worth it.

Ed told me for XC racing you want -2* camber with a rider on it. I found this to be a big PITA so I went with what another member on here said and set them to -1* unloaded (on the jack stand) and they seemed to work fine for me.

I used one of these

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/370x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_277.jpg

And a flat piece of metal to go across the rim to measure my camber.

Then I set the caster on the second tooth from the front.

92K1500
03-28-2011, 09:59 PM
Pictures:

This is how it looks installed. You can see I just used my stock rubbers from the stock clamps and ran 2 zip ties around them to hold the brake lines to the arms.

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab12/Silver350Z/ATV/Stillwater/3-27-2011/IMG_5231.jpg

This is how it looks after hitting a tree.

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab12/Silver350Z/ATV/Stillwater/3-27-2011/IMG_5230.jpg

But this is how another members looks after the same thing.

http://www.club700xx.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=70&pictureid=216

So either I got lucky or the TT's are much stronger.

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab12/Silver350Z/ATV/Stillwater/3-27-2011/IMG_5229.jpg

Random cell phone pic while working on them.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/196144_10150107159021008_715821007_6886884_2191439 _n.jpg

Overall I was happy with them. I just wish TT made stock replacement lowers too.

Hope this helps you.

TRX700XXX
03-29-2011, 03:06 PM
Great review! looks like I won't be able to really test my a arms until the trip to WV in April.

ranger19jn
03-29-2011, 06:35 PM
Um I'd say the teixeira arms are much stronger than stock

Where is the vid man it should have been up by now

92K1500
03-29-2011, 06:52 PM
Helmet is still out in the garage.

I'll get around to it.

AusTrx700xx
03-30-2011, 08:13 AM
wish my a-arms help up that well when i hit the tree but as you can see from the pic they didnt, how fast were you going when you managed to hit the tree

nice review man, im keen on the teixeira tech arms but still decieding to go plus 2 or plus 1 1/4

xx700xx
03-30-2011, 08:47 AM
Thanks for the review 92k1500! That XX that hit the tree looks brutal, hope the rider is ok.

AusTrx700xx
03-30-2011, 08:57 AM
i was in hosptial for about 2 days, severe soft tissue and muscle damage and a fractured pelvis, severe concusion smashed the chin guard off the helmet and put a split up the back of it, i landed on my right hip when i didnt see a whop in 5th pinned, still have a limp a yr on

xx700xx
03-30-2011, 09:04 AM
i was in hosptial for about 2 days, severe soft tissue and muscle damage and a fractured pelvis, severe concusion smashed the chin guard off the helmet and put a split up the back of it, i landed on my right hip when i didnt see a whop in 5th pinned, still have a limp a yr on
Wow, that sucks. I just had a roofer who fell 25ft. off a roof and only broke his ankle. Dialed the patient in with morphine and it was allllll gooooood. haha

AusTrx700xx
03-30-2011, 09:07 AM
mmm morphine.... the only thing better than the morphine was the hot nurse who told me she was going to take my pants off!

xx700xx
03-30-2011, 09:12 AM
mmm morphine.... the only thing better than the morphine was the hot nurse who told me she was going to take my pants off!
Haha, there are so I'd like to ask out but its hard to slip in during a patient report. Patient complains of nausea and vomitting, want to go out sometime? Just doesn't work, lol. Sorry for hijacking the thread, back to the A-arms. ha

92K1500
03-30-2011, 09:22 AM
I was in top of second bottom of third range of speed.

AusTrx700xx
03-30-2011, 09:33 AM
i got a real phone number out of it, been the patient its easier to play the simpathy card, but you could always try the corny lines like "patient complains of a fever but thats normal caus i guess im that hot its just infectious" haha dont think it would work but you have to try

Sorry for hikacking the thread too, wont happen anymore

ranger19jn
03-30-2011, 11:39 AM
Helmet is still out in the garage.

I'll get around to it.
NO! thats not good enough I want it up NOW!!! :steamed:

I told you to give it to me Id post it you just dont want me slow mo'ing it and repeting it ten times lmao

Baxter
03-30-2011, 04:17 PM
Great review!

I agree

Um I'd say the teixeira arms are much stronger than stock

I agree again , I bought the uppers because I got fed up straightening the stock uppers.

nice review man, im keen on the teixeira tech arms but still decieding to go plus 2 or plus 1 1/4

If you want to run lower ride height , using shorter front shocks . Get the +2 wide +1 forward . The +1 forward will help with the front end weight added doing this. Stock length front shocks do something similar to putting 450r fronts and standard travel a-arms. Not measured the LT Teixeira front a-arms with stock length S1 shocks yet but will do so real soon.

TeixeiraTech
03-31-2011, 10:45 PM
92K1500,
Thanks for the great review!! Nice pictures to illustrate the difference in turning.

Crash21
04-01-2011, 04:19 PM
I did have one question. Did you have the sway bar before the A-Arms or after? I was just curious. I am really interested in these but just didnt know if your write up was with just the arms or with both?

traitor08
04-01-2011, 05:05 PM
Me to, I really want to know what it feels like with a-arms and sway bar. If nobody does areport, I will when I can afford to get them both.

Red-N-BlackXX
04-01-2011, 05:17 PM
He has both but he had the swaybar first. He has the 9/16th bar.

92K1500
04-01-2011, 05:26 PM
Red-N-Black is correct.

I think I like the A arms more than the sway bar, but nobody will be able to get me to take the sway bar off. I think the xx should have both of them no matter what kind of riding you do.

Crash21
04-01-2011, 09:08 PM
I was just curious of the performance of the A-Arms without the sway bar. It is hard to say that you like the A-Arms better than the sway bar if you have never tried them without having the sway bar off. You cant really say how it performs if the sway bar wasnt there.

boost addict
04-01-2011, 09:11 PM
Most guys running the sway bar are running stock shocks. How would you compare all the different set-ups?

Crash21
04-01-2011, 09:41 PM
You couldn't unless you did them each seperately to get a perfect opinion. But it seems that shocks are not as much about turning as the a-arms or the sway bar. Im not bashing the a-arms but was just curious about the perfomance of them independent of the sway bar. I thought the write up was really good but it just got me wondering. Like the picture of how tight the turn was. Would it have been that tight without the sway bar? If not how much wider would it have been. Does that make sense. Just trying to find out more info. I havent seen a write up of this quality for just the a-arms so I was puting it out there to see if there was more to add

boost addict
04-01-2011, 09:56 PM
Great questions! I would also like to know the answers:tup:

92K1500
04-01-2011, 10:26 PM
I believe I still have my stock sway bar hidden in the box my 9/16 came in somewhere around here.

When I get my A arms fixed I will go make a circle with it how it is, then swap back to the stock bar and go do a circle on the same spot.

Switching the shocks back is a lot to ask though. lol Those are a PITA to put back in because the bushings aren't fixed.

Crash21
04-01-2011, 10:35 PM
Nah thats not needed. Like I said for actual turning they are not as big a difference as the sway bar and a-arms

92K1500
04-01-2011, 10:39 PM
They do help more than you'd think. IIRC I didn't have the sway bar yet when I put the shocks on and they made a big difference on dirt roads.

EEHonda
04-01-2011, 11:17 PM
Red-N-Black is correct.

I think I like the A arms more than the sway bar, but nobody will be able to get me to take the sway bar off. I think the xx should have both of them no matter what kind of riding you do.

Nice! Keep talkin like that. Still waiting on my shocks to give mine a try. My sonic sway made a world of difference over stock, hope I have just as good a luck with the arms as you have. First thing I'm gonna do is turn around on a oil and chip country road and stay on the pavement like my 600+lb rincon, and pretty much anything else I have ever owned. Then I'm gonna cut donuts across the field like a no hookin Banshee on wet grass!

92K1500
04-11-2011, 09:06 AM
If my damn shock hadn't bent I'd have it back together and could do some videos....

It's still sitting on a jack stand missing it's lower A arm and a shock.

TRX700XXX
04-11-2011, 09:37 AM
I just got a chance to ride this past weekend with my new a-arms. I started out on the second from quickest castor setting which worked great on the trail. However there is a dirt road where you can really open it up and I didn't feel comfortable going any higher than 4th gear because it steered too quick and felt like I would dart off the road in a heart beat. So I backed off one notch on the castor and tryed again. This time it was much more stable at high speed but not quite as much as stock. But on the trails it steered much better than stock and seems like the perfect set up for me.

xx700xx
04-11-2011, 11:43 AM
I just got a chance to ride this past weekend with my new a-arms. I started out on the second from quickest castor setting which worked great on the trail. However there is a dirt road where you can really open it up and I didn't feel comfortable going any higher than 4th gear because it steered too quick and felt like I would dart off the road in a heart beat. So I backed off one notch on the castor and tryed again. This time it was much more stable at high speed but not quite as much as stock. But on the trails it steered much better than stock and seems like the perfect set up for me.
Ahhhh, this is a good review. Thank you for posting and explaining your ride!