The day has finally come where I build the XX. I wanted to show the build and update everyone. This build like Dwight's will show that EHS has the dobeck fuel controller down to an exact science. The build is almost complete, I'm just waiting on a few parts from Eric. Here is what the build consists of...

The Build:
EHS +1 CNC ported head
EHS Dobeck Fuel controller
EHS Xcaliber cam
EHS +3 throttle body bore
EHS lid with every vent possible
EHS clutch kit
CP piston 11:1
Barker exhaust
UNI filter

After the build, I will head out to the nearest dyno and post numbers for you guys.

A couple more...

Should be a fun ride when its all done

Looking forward for your #'s :)!

Looking forward for your #'s :)!

I am too! I'm guessing I'll be in the same neighborhood as you. Who knows, we shall see. :)

Your sound promising:) I used bald knobbies and a uni filter with the stock air box so maybe with a fci filter without lid I can get magic 60's :)

Your sound promising:) I used bald knobbies and a uni filter with the stock air box so maybe with a fci filter without lid I can get magic 60's :)

Nice, the dyno guy promised me he would have slicks. I'd like to try air box lid on and off. I don't want to talk numbers too much. I'll let the dyno do that. Hopefully we get an accurate reading with slicks!

Your cam sound promising;) next time won't use my uni and box lid on the dyno, i'm looking for a fci type of intake tube assembly.

Sorry for double post my iphone shut off.

Your cam sound promising;) next time won't use my uni and box lid on the dyno, i'm looking for a fci type of intake tube assembly.

My valve cover comes in tomorrow. I'll finish assembling everything and installing the clutch. I'll break her in at my friends and then dyno timmmmmmmme!

curious to see.... this is the build im going for next!

curious to see.... this is the build im going for next!
Excellent, everything sounds promising. We'll see how she does! I'll try to get this done as soon as I possibly can! Eric will talk to the dyno guy over the phone to walk him through everything assuming any changes need to be made to the controller. Valve cover comes in today! I'll get to work on the XX first thing tomorrow morning, I've got a lot to do today.

I'm curious to see now that cam performs

I'm curious to see now that cam performs
I'm pretty sure Dwight used the same cam on his standard valve cnc head. His dyno sheets should be under the EHS section. We'll see how she does with the +1 valve.

http://www.club700xx.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5839&page=7

Looks like it made way more power than the HC3 in the same head. Pretty cool but the HC's aren't really crazy cams. My xx with the HC3 was pretty damn quick, I pulled hard from the other xx's and a big 3 raptor stole the shit out of the hit when we raced. I came back and beat him by 2 quads. For a drop in cam the HC3 was awesome with Eric's tune but I know guys are looking to see dyno charts with more power. Thats why we have 08700XX, haha. This build is nothing too crazy but it'll be nice to show off EHS's product.

TB is installed along with everything else. I need to pick up synthetic oil and Coolant still. I'll throw the clutch fibers in oil prior to leaving for the store. Still waiting on the mail man, He usually comes at 2 so about 10 to 15 min till the valve cover is ringing my doorbell! Hahaaa

Yeah I know how my webb cam pulls and if this new ehs cam pulls harder than that I may have to makes swap.

Jfdanie what hp /tq # did you get with the 290? I got almost the same mods but the 694 cam. Don't want to hijack sorry;)

Jfdanie what hp /tq # did you get with the 290? I got almost the same mods but the 694 cam. Don't want to hijack sorry;)

Not to worry, this will be good. We will have a few similar builds I'm here with Webb cams and the xcaliber cam. Mail man is over an hour late! Wtf?!

Heres a quick question.

The Web cam needs harden rockers , the HC 3 does not. Does Eric's cam need harden rockers also ?

Heres a quick question.

The Web cam needs harden rockers , the HC 3 does not. Does Eric's cam need harden rockers also ?

Yup

Its recommended due to the increased ramp rate of the performance profile... gotta pay to play and make HP

Jfdanie what hp /tq # did you get with the 290? I got almost the same mods but the 694 cam. Don't want to hijack sorry;)

I haven't had it on a dyno yet but I know that my setup makes around 61 to 62 HP from other peoples builds on this site that have the exact same setup.

Yup

Cheers Bubba. :D

yeah my cam needs hardwelded rockers and springs the std xx kibble springs work fine with it. i have another cam i want to get made up for the big head it requires quite a bit of extra stuff thats pretty $$ i didnt see the demand for it quite yet.

it is a .440" lift on the intake

the main set back to being able to run bigger lift cams in the xx head is the travel distance from the top of the guide to bottom of the retainer on the spring. with the stock guide seals on top of a guide that is in factory location do not give you much travel room the standard kibble spring kits also close it up because the retainer is taller than a factory one is. i would imagine most of the guys running the 290 webs if they have not addressed that issue are running some very tight clearences there, i havent degreed a 290 but they are supposed to be around a .430 lift if they are actually that it doesnt leave much at any squish room. When i do the heads the guides get pressed further into the head to make up the extra room. you can also cut the back side of the spring retainer to make up a little room.

Can't wait to see this build...you're gonna love all the power, I got addicted to it lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kbci9_TzjU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

It's alive!!! :rock:

Oh and wash that thing!!! :haha:

Ha, too cold to wash it! Dyno Friday!

you have self control i would be ripping it up the street with the garge door opener in my hand so i could make a get away from the police

you have self control i would be ripping it up the street with the garge door opener in my hand so i could make a get away from the police
LOL, kinda like a Batman stunt. haha

yeah my cam needs hardwelded rockers and springs the std xx kibble springs work fine with it. i have another cam i want to get made up for the big head it requires quite a bit of extra stuff thats pretty $$ i didnt see the demand for it quite yet.

it is a .440" lift on the intake

the main set back to being able to run bigger lift cams in the xx head is the travel distance from the top of the guide to bottom of the retainer on the spring. with the stock guide seals on top of a guide that is in factory location do not give you much travel room the standard kibble spring kits also close it up because the retainer is taller than a factory one is. i would imagine most of the guys running the 290 webs if they have not addressed that issue are running some very tight clearences there, i havent degreed a 290 but they are supposed to be around a .430 lift if they are actually that it doesnt leave much at any squish room. When i do the heads the guides get pressed further into the head to make up the extra room. you can also cut the back side of the spring retainer to make up a little room.

http://www.club700xx.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6876.

Not a plug for a sale, there gone.


(http://www.club700xx.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6876)

i know you put that smooth, but you would need to eliminate the valve seal to make up the room and im still not sure if they would gain that much you would need longer valve stem protrusion either by a recessed valve or longer stem. the xr springs can also have the retainers be modified to make up some clearence. the xr springs are good for a much higher lift before coil bind but that doesnt stop the retainer from smacking the seal.

also when you start to increase valve stem protrusion you start to alter the rocker angle relation so that is something you have to be careful of

Eric, I forgot to tell ya. I went back into the head after the warm up. The valve lash was still good! I'll do another heat cycle and ride thursday. Work will be torture tomorrow, 24 hours of wanting to be home riding. I also used 10w-40 Honda synthetic. My contact has not gotten back to me about the amsoil yet, sorry.

i know you put that smooth, but you would need to eliminate the valve seal to make up the room and im still not sure if they would gain that much you would need longer valve stem protrusion either by a recessed valve or longer stem. the xr springs can also have the retainers be modified to make up some clearence. the xr springs are good for a much higher lift before coil bind but that doesnt stop the retainer from smacking the seal.

also when you start to increase valve stem protrusion you start to alter the rocker angle relation so that is something you have to be careful of

Valve guide and spring retainer work only, Seals intact. Not to doubt or intrude on your thread, Just an example.

Next time wash your bike before doing surgery;)

At the dyno ask for the brand of the dyno, weight of the roll,the ambient temp, humidity an your real engine running temp you do max hp pulls. when we did max hp pulls, with and without wideband in the header's bong I had 1.2 hp less without the wide band in the head pipe.I've been 3 hours on the dyno and the explained all the things he did, ask alot of question to the guy . I bet a beer you have over 45 at 4000rpm.

Good luck on Friday, I hope you see some big numbers with all that hard work you put into your beast. Looks like I may get mine on the dyno Saturday.

08700xx, the pionner and still the most friendly.

Good luck on Friday, I hope you see some big numbers with all that hard work you put into your beast. Looks like I may get mine on the dyno Saturday.
Nice, remember you have to post those numbers! Haha. I'm hoping to hit somewhere in the neighborhood of brokenbones but we shall seeeeee.
This is the place I'm going to for a dyno session...
http://illinoispowersports.com/content/

Valve guide and spring retainer work only, Seals intact. Not to doubt or intrude on your thread, Just an example.

Your saying what im saying just in less words you addressed the issue with changes that allowed more lift. If you change a few things then you can get more. I was pointing it out for the guys dropping in the cam and springs on there own that they need to pay attention to that area if they do it themselves

I rode it today! The tune felt good and the power felt even better! I can't wait for the 2012 season!!!

They have a Dynojet 188, Basically the same Dyno as mine and EHS ... different spread on the rollers for wider vehicles

They have a Dynojet 188, Basically the same Dyno as mine and EHS ... different spread on the rollers for wider vehicles

That being said do I still have to ask 20 questions about the dyno?! The guy said temp and all that good stuff will be accounted for and the numbers will be real, not inflated or fudged.

Don't be nervous about those questions, it's just me and my '' why this? why that?'';)

SAE or STD correction factor is normally used and pretty close to eachother, whatever tires u run will affect Hp output Hoosiers slicks will run the highest vs holeshot knobbies the lowest

I used worn out holeshots....

At the dyno...

Woohoo :rock:

At the dyno...

Any news yet? I can't wait much longer lol.

Any news yet? I can't wait much longer lol.

I'll let you know when we dial it in...

Still waiting on the guy. He's doing 10 things at once. Sorry guys

No numbers yet?

Did he blow your bike up or what :confused:

Its starting to seem something is going wrong with the dyno runs.

Scott...Fuelmoto has the cheapest price on the PCV :tup:

Scott...Fuelmoto has the cheapest price on the PCV :tup:

:lol::funny:

I hope everything is ok Scott...I want to see some big numbers.

55hp. If you understood tuning Jodi you would realize that a PVC will not get me much more. A finer tune yes but only 1 or 2 peak horsepower. I won't rip an extra 5+ hp because I switched to a PVC. She put down 55 hp on this dyno. Crash and valk will dyno here too so we'll have good comparables

55hp. If you understood tuning Jodi you would realize that a PVC will not get me much more. A finer tune yes but only 1 or 2 peak horsepower. I won't rip an extra 5+ hp because I switched to a PVC. She put down 55 hp on this dyno. Crash and valk will dyno here too so we'll have good comparables

Scott...This is the same build as yours. 11:1 piston on pump gas, 290cam with a +3 tb. I learned the hard way also, have Bo or Daniel rework your head. At least make the most with the money you already spent:tup:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll109/expedision/IMG_0326.jpg

Scott...This is the same build as yours. 11:1 piston on pump gas, 290cam with a +3 tb. I learned the hard way also, have Bo or Daniel rework your head. At least make the most with the money you already spent:tup:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll109/expedision/IMG_0326.jpg

Different dyno and you show sae, mine was standard.

55hp. If you understood tuning Jodi you would realize that a PVC will not get me much more. A finer tune yes but only 1 or 2 peak horsepower. I won't rip an extra 5+ hp because I switched to a PVC. She put down 55 hp on this dyno. Crash and valk will dyno here too so we'll have good comparables

:rock:Post up the sheet when you get a chance. Is that where you and Eric thought you would be? I think you were guessing 57ish so you were really close. Did they have slicks? Your build is like my Alba build (57HP on slicks) and the numbers are pretty close as well. Have fun with your new power.

I have to ride it still! I want to take it out and test it. I don't want to get caught up in the numbers game. I want to see how she feels.

:rock:Post up the sheet when you get a chance. Is that where you and Eric thought you would be? I think you were guessing 57ish so you were really close. Did they have slicks? Your build is like my Alba build (57HP on slicks) and the numbers are pretty close as well. Have fun with your new power.
Yea, I have video and dyno sheets. I'm not home yet. Dyno guy was all over. He was doing ten things at once all damn day. I was there from 1 to 7pm

I have to ride it still! I want to take it out and test it. I don't want to get caught up in the numbers game. I want to see how she feels.

I hear ya...go kill a few quads and show them that we can make pigs fly :hey:

I hear ya...go kill a few quads and show them that we can make pigs fly :hey:

Lol, xx's are pigs. I can't wait to race!!!! The good news is I can build a motor!

Nice man enjoy the new power!

Yea, I have video and dyno sheets. I'm not home yet. Dyno guy was all over. He was doing ten things at once all damn day. I was there from 1 to 7pm

Cool, post it up when you get a chance. I'm not gonna get into all the this VS that drama because I know how it feels to spend a lot of money building a dobeck build and then have everyone question you about it. Have fun with the new power and try not to get the bug like me and Jody because it ends up being very $$$$ in the long run :lol:

Thanks mike, I'll hang on to that advice! I know I'll be happy with it. My friend locked himself out so I'm waiting for his wife to get home, lol! When I get home I'll make a dyno video and post sheets for you nuts!

Different dyno and you show sae, mine was standard.

I still have you beat with a dobeck, 694 Webb cam and a Alba +1 Head on the ehs dyno:tup: Same build did 61hp after going to the pcv and +3 tb.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll109/expedision/EHS_700XX_Project_STG2.jpg

I still have you beat with a dobeck, 694 Webb cam and a Alba +1 Head on the ehs dyno:tup: Same build did 61hp after going to the pcv and +3 tb.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll109/expedision/EHS_700XX_Project_STG2.jpg

Congrats, you have me beat on paper. I build my own motor and can out ride you on my worst day.:hey:

Congrats, you have me beat on paper. I build my own motor and can out ride you on my worst day.:hey:

Just trying to help you Scott :ohno: Here is Bo's head vs alba+1 head, same combo with the +3 TB:tup:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll109/expedision/IMG_1437.jpg

I'm real jealous boys I really want one 2 back in iowa for xmas an new grandbaby born on sunday then back in glamis after the new year then mousedriver is going to hook me with guy that has a dyno can;t afford all those go fast parts yet maybe if i can sell smome stuff in ia:xx:

Bo's +1 head sb vs Bo's +1 head bb(727cc). I know a little about dyno tuning:lol:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll109/expedision/IMG_1433.jpg

Your right Boost, I did my own +1 head porting and I see the extra upper rpm giving the damn 4 rwhp that Bo found in these. I was really anxious about coolant pockets. Now this show how port job is black art.

Jody is just trying to save you some money Scott. We both spent way more money than we had to getting to where we are now with trial and error.

Jodi if your gonna tell stories at least get them right

Wait, What? Jody is helping me with what? I didn't ask for help with anything. I built a bike and its done. The tune is complete and this is what I have. Jody is so caught up with numbers, its just stupid. I wanted more power and I got it. Done. I'm not doing this stupid pissing match anymore, its useless. People were curious about the dobeck build and here it is complete. I'm sure Bo does really nice porting but I didn't use Bo nor am I going to. Time to riddddde!

Jodi if your gonna tell stories at least get them right

That's why i put up the dyno sheet's. Enough said:tup:

Wait, What? Jody is helping me with what? I didn't ask for help with anything. I built a bike and its done. The tune is complete and this is what I have. Jody is so caught up with numbers, its just stupid. I wanted more power and I got it. Done. I'm not doing this stupid pissing match anymore, its useless. People were curious about the dobeck build and here it is complete. I'm sure Bo does really nice porting but I didn't use Bo nor am I going to. Time to riddddde!

I give up:ohno: Enjoy your Build !!!!!

People were curious about the dobeck build and here it is complete. Time to riddddde!


:rock:

Thanks mike, I'll hang on to that advice! I know I'll be happy with it. My friend locked himself out so I'm waiting for his wife to get home, lol! When I get home I'll make a dyno video and post sheets for you nuts!

are u home yet?
post something cool up...


numbers can be all over the place unless u have a comparison on the same dyno or same tires.... FYI SAE always shows lower then STD correction factor... Interested to see how the powerband came out with the cam and head

are u home yet?
post something cool up...


numbers can be all over the place unless u have a comparison on the same dyno or same tires.... FYI SAE always shows lower then STD correction factor... Interested to see how the powerband came out with the cam and head

The guy e-mailed me all the dyno charts but I don't have the software to show it. Do you know where I can find it? Like I said previously we will have comparables in the not too distant future. 2 other xx's on the same dyno!

email it to me @ highdesertdyno@yahoo.com

email it to me @ highdesertdyno@yahoo.com
Email sent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNkzolnImtI&feature=youtu.be

yours vs dwights(#79)
SAE and STD

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/dcloveridge/quads%20and%20trucks/700xx-1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/dcloveridge/quads%20and%20trucks/700xx2.jpg

The 55.8 is me, I'm pretty sure the rest are Dwight's. Eric sent us his map for a comparable and it was mixed in there twice. 079 is for sure dwight

I think the guy said my bigger valves helped in the over rev. Dwight's tapers off where mine pulls a bit more power longer

If I had a wish fo 2012 is to all drag race and see ;)

here is your runs.....by themselves
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/dcloveridge/quads%20and%20trucks/xx700xx.jpg

I still have you beat with a dobeck, 694 Webb cam and a Alba +1 Head on the ehs dyno:tup: Same build did 61hp after going to the pcv and +3 tb.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll109/expedision/EHS_700XX_Project_STG2.jpg

jodi this isnt even your graph lol i really dont want you to drag me into this with you because i dont think its really right of me to get into another shops build you brought here over internet squabble your +1 alba build with a 290 did 52 here and i think 53 one time so you picked up 8-9hp on top of a decent build already switching fuel controllers and adding a +3 you maybe dont think that had anything to do with one dyno to the next do you?

also this cam is a strong bottom end cam that has a low centerline and shorter duration that is made to hold a flat power curve up top when compared to a 290 it should rev quicker on the bottom and hold close to the same power up top probably at 7500 rpm area it may fall a little short to the 290 which you can see in your graphs where yours is peaking when we tested it here in your head it didnt peak quite like it did with your next heads probably because those flowed better and let it do its thing up top

the 290 may pull a little better up top and give a better performance for a dune application or desert racing where you are at 6k+ rpm all the time but my focus was from what i felt the majority of the xx guys i talk to use there xx for tight trails and normal trail riding quick rev and a broad curve

if you want to have a smart convo thats fine with me otherwise please stay out of my thread

I don't think there is much to talk about with your build:lol: so i will stay out of your threads from now on:tup:

Looks like I made 57hp then, very nice. I'm going out today to ride it and try some things out.

Sweet! Looks like a good power curve to me. Sounded like it rev's fast and over revved easily. I wanna know how she ride's? Good job on building it yourself. It didn't blow up and that's an accomplishment in itself! :lol:

Sweet! Looks like a good power curve to me. Sounded like it rev's fast and over revved easily. I wanna know how she ride's? Good job on building it yourself. It didn't blow up and that's an accomplishment in itself! :lol:
I'm trying to build up the courage to go out into the cold and test it. Conditions are as ideal as they can get this late in December! :nuts:

Oh put on your snowmobile gear and go ride the damn thing! :haha:

Oh put on your snowmobile gear and go ride the damn thing! :haha:
Did that last year and melted it. LOL

nice work guys looks like a solid build and on pump gas!

Get some really ,really thick gloves and take it for a spin. Nice build !
Would also like to know off Eric , best way to make 50 hp motor ?
This build is a nice one but might be too much for an 8 hr race (Ironman) I have planned for 2012.

Get some really ,really thick gloves and take it for a spin. Nice build !
Would also like to know off Eric , best way to make 50 hp motor ?
This build is a nice one but might be too much for an 8 hr race (Ironman) I have planned for 2012.
Bullet box with Eric's tune a HC3 will get there! I had that set up and it worked awesome!

I just test rode my bike, the power is awesome. Makes my HC3 set up feel slow. Bike is running great and i couldn't be happier! Thanks Eric for the excellent customer service and badass parts! This machine is going to take quite a few names in 2012!

thanks scott here is a sheet with your run on your dyno vs dwights big 3 on mine i imagine they will be similiar but a big 3 on that one could be higher or lower im not sure but i imagine it will probably be fairly close to this. Once you find that out it will give you a good idea on how to compare it if its accurate 18hp up in the mid 8k rpm is a pretty good gain





http://www.ehsracing.com/images/dyno_graphs/dwightbig3_vs_scott_build.jpg

First few weeks in Jan Valk and I will go to the dyno and get a baseline for our next upgrades. Valk is big 3 and Im piston and cam on top of that so we will see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GXF9PIbLP8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

looks like its running good. how is the power?

looks like its running good. how is the power?

Put it this way. My xx with the hc3 was beating all the big three raptors, xx's and 450's. This set up makes the hc3 set up look and feel extremely slow. Everything work out awesome! Solid build and solid parts. Eric did a really good job!

When I tested the xx, i noticed what Eric was talking about with his cam design. The Webb 290 makes good peak power while Eric's cam has a much wider powerband. When comparing my dyno charts to other xx builds with the 290 web you'll see I make power earlier on. This is great for most of us who trail ride. You'll be able topic the motor more without killing it in tighter areas on the trails. I think Eric might be testing the 290 Webb and his cam so everyone can see the difference.

thats awsome im happy you like it have fun..youll have to come to silverlake in the summer and run my banshee:hey:

thats awsome im happy you like it have fun..youll have to come to silverlake in the summer and run my banshee:hey:

Hell yea, I love racing! If you were there in October we might have raced already. Ha

nope wasnt there in october i got a blue 60hp banshee maybe we can swap rides for a couple races :hey:

We should be back right after they open in April

The dyno guy called me today to talk about my set up. He was impressed with how the cam made such an awesome power curve. He talked about the power. Ommander vs the bullet box(dobeck). He said that I would NOT see any gains from a power commander, if I did it would be next to nothing.
Ehs bullet box= proven!

Did he fine tune it or just made wot tune ?

Did he fine tune it or just made wot tune ?

that is an OXy-moron for the Simple controller....

PC5 FTMFW.... idle tune, Partial throttle tune , full throttle tune, and no need to remove for different programming.....

When I tested the xx, i noticed what Eric was talking about with his cam design. The Webb 290 makes good peak power while Eric's cam has a much wider powerband. When comparing my dyno charts to other xx builds with the 290 web you'll see I make power earlier on. This is great for most of us who trail ride. You'll be able topic the motor more without killing it in tighter areas on the trails. I think Eric might be testing the 290 Webb and his cam so everyone can see the difference.

that test should have been done before the cam was sold... JMO

I've 3 hours to all rpm range with load to get best a/r for max tq and throttle response.

Sorry I meant I spent 3 hour on the dyno

that test should have been done before the cam was sold... JMO
Technically it was, Dwight had this cam long before I did. He didn't post as much about it as I did. I'm pretty much giving my ride review on my new build.

I'm listening to your guys arguments and pointers...
Truth is, PCV is not necessary and if I crossed over I would end up spending more money. I did a build with what I have. There are a lot of people who currently have the EHS big 3 which is a great package. These people now know that if they want to build up there bike more there is a tune they can use with their current fuel controller. No need for the headache of selling that and buying a PCV. Is the PCV more advanced and can get you a finer tune, yes no arguement there. Will the PCV give me any gains at this point, no I don't see it happening. The bike is done and the bullet box is proven. EHS customers now know they can use what they have if they want to go bigger!!! Thanks again for the constructive criticisms and help guys. That goes to everyone here!

I've 3 hours to all rpm range with load to get best a/r for max tq and throttle response.
Very nice! As you can see in my video she responds pretty nice. No hesitation when he stabs the throttle. Whats in your build again? I like to compare numbers and builds to see where I'm at here. We'll have some side by side comparisons real soon here with other xx's on the same dyno with the same tires!!!!

Here is my list:
694 web cam
Hardened rockers
Kibblewhite spring kit
My own porting with +1 intake valve
Taper bored throttle body with modded rubber coupler
Cp 11.1 piston
Barker pipe
Pc5
Uni filter

Note that I use a 694 cam and not a 290.

Here is my list:
694 web cam
Hardened rockers
Kibblewhite spring kit
My own porting with +1 intake valve
Taper bored throttle body with modded rubber coupler
Cp 11.1 piston
Barker pipe
Pc5
Uni filter

Note that I use a 694 cam and not a 290.
nice, did you take pics of your port work? I noticed you had the smaller cam of the two.

Yeah got some pics but there are not very good, I used my iphone...

That 694 ran real hard in my bike

Sounds like another nice cam! I want to run all these builds so bad. Club outing!

Go see my dyno sheet I got 44 rwtq at 4200 rpm and 50 Rwhp at 5000 rpm that sounds like a good trail powerband for me. I guess I have been too conservative with my porting but I have been warned about the thickness of the head.

You know it's your cam 08700xx?

Go see my dyno sheet I got 44 rwtq at 4200 rpm and 50 Rwhp at 5000 rpm that sounds like a good trail powerband for me. I guess I have been too conservative with my porting but I have been warned about the thickness of the head.
You have a link?

http://www.club700xx.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7285

You know it's your cam 08700xx?

Yeah DL told me you got my cam from him...I'm glad its working out for you, your numbers look really good.

my lil ole hot cam got the job done too.:D lol. i wish we all lived closer and could just have one big xx shoot out.:xx:

Yeah !

im really liking that were all geting around the same numbers with similar builds. were putting some good data down on these bikes.

my lil ole hot cam got the job done too.:D lol. i wish we all lived closer and could just have one big xx shoot out.:xx:


That would be sick to have a XX shoot out... I've been wondering for a while who has the 3rd fastest :lmao:

Your bike put down some really good numbers with a HC

im really liking that were all geting around the same numbers with similar builds. were putting some good data down on these bikes.
Yea, this is some really interesting stuff here. I've been looking at everyone's dyno sheets. I've been looking not just at numbers but power bands. I've been keeping a close eye at where peak numbers hit and how long each build hangs on to those numbers. Very interesting! Rem, can you post your dyno as well please?

Yea, this is some really interesting stuff here. I've been looking at everyone's dyno sheets. I've been looking not just at numbers but power bands. I've been keeping a close eye at where peak numbers hit and how long each build hangs on to those numbers. Very interesting! Rem, can you post your dyno as well please?

it is really interesting to see all these different builds. I love that more and more guys are starting to build the XX and we are all doing it a little different.

Mine should be differant !!!!!!!!lol. Should be up and running ,hopefully by September 2012 .

Also you guys keep posting this stuff. I'll get my head round it one day.

it is really interesting to see all these different builds. I love that more and more guys are starting to build the XX and we are all doing it a little different.
Yea, it seems like each one is a combination of different parts. The numbers appear close although there are a lot of variables in there. The power curves are what are starting to catch my attention. My HC3 felt like you couldn't really lug the motor and now I can with Eric's cam. He really did a good job with making a trail rider cam that puts down good power. I definitely would like to see Rem's. Brokenbones used a webb, Rem used a HC and I used Eric's. All 3 appear to be in the same ball park but the way they make power is slightly different. Really cool stuff here! We should start a dyno sheet thread but Boost will just over run it. LOL

Mine should be differant !!!!!!!!lol. Should be up and running ,hopefully by September 2012 .
Are you going to dyno yours as well Bax?

Probably, but is a day off work which kinda pays for the Sundays.

Im up for this XX shootout. Straight line? Woods? Jumps? Wheelies? Burnouts? I am sure I am in the top hundred in one of those.

Im up for this XX shootout. Straight line? Woods? Jumps? Wheelies? Burnouts? I am sure I am in the top hundred in one of those.
x2:lol:

Im up for this XX shootout. Straight line? Woods? Jumps? Wheelies? Burnouts? I am sure I am in the top hundred in one of those.

Mine only goes straight right now :disgust:... but ill be working on that soon :hey:

Im up for this XX shootout. Straight line? Woods? Jumps? Wheelies? Burnouts? I am sure I am in the top hundred in one of those.
you fall down just trying to get on yours!:birds:

and im trying to find my dyno sheets

Can we have a stiky with all dyno sheet, that would be nice!!? And for the race I think that would more a driver talent and weight battle;) I weight 150lbs ;)) and I'm like Ricky Bobby;p

and I'm like Ricky Bobby;p
so you ride a huffy? that a nice lookin bike there boy!:lmao: careful im all jacked up on mt dew and will come at you like a spider monkey:xx:

Lol

Can we have a stiky with all dyno sheet, that would be nice!!? And for the race I think that would more a driver talent and weight battle;) I weight 150lbs ;)) and I'm like Ricky Bobby;p
I weighed in at 168lbs. during my physical, I'm getting fat! Make sure everyone posts numbers in the same setting like STD or SAE. Currently almost everyone has been using STD which shows a bit higher. :hey:

Wow, I am a fatty at 218, but then again I am 6'2

Wow, I am a fatty at 218, but then again I am 6'2

Yea, they measured me at 5'10", depressing ... Haha

Fyi I posted SAE Lol

Fyi I posted SAE Lol

I saw std on your sheet! Sorry but your correction method was std. Just looked

Wow, I am a fatty at 218, but then again I am 6'2

You are a fatty! :lmao:

I saw std on your sheet! Sorry but your correction method was std. Just looked

Yeah my bad was wrong:nuts:

Yeah my bad was wrong:nuts:

Really no big deal, get videos of that beast!

Scott...This is the same build as yours. 11:1 piston on pump gas, 290cam with a +3 tb. I learned the hard way also, have Bo or Daniel rework your head. At least make the most with the money you already spent:tup:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll109/expedision/IMG_0326.jpg

I have to point this out so people understand something. This build is not the same as mine. His sb build put down 61hp std, this is showing 62hp in sae. The build that he says is the same is actually a bb build and not the same. Smoke mirrors? Thinking so....:coffee:

Scott...That's my sb/ss build and the #s are SAE. I didn't own a Cuervo Head when the bb was built:tup: Look at the date 9-17-2011:haha:

Scott...That's my sb/ss build and the #s are SAE. I didn't own a Cuervo Head when the bb was built:tup: Look at the date 9-17-2011:haha:

Your sb put down 61 sae, the bb put down 62 sae and 63 std. This is your bb build. The dyno thread has your numbers and none are 62hp out of a sb .

MY bb put down 63.54hp-51.25tq SAE. I sold the BB to Mike back in June. That dyno run was from 2 months ago lol. I sold the Alba+1 head to Travis and returned with the Cuervo head to see the difference.

I have to point this out so people understand something. This build is not the same as mine. His sb build put down 61hp std, this is showing 62hp in sae. The build that he says is the same is actually a bb build and not the same. Smoke mirrors? Thinking so....:coffee:


Yeah you are mistaken on this one scott, That's Jodys SB build. I bought Jodys BB at the end of July so he didnt even have it when that dyno run was made.

MY bb put down 63.54hp-51.25tq SAE. I sold the BB to Mike back in June. That dyno run was from 2 months ago lol. I sold the Alba+1 head to Travis and returned with the Cuervo head to see the difference.

This dyno sheet is labeled drag xx like the bb one. If 62hp is your sae number than why didn't you put that in the dyno thread since you have an obsession with high dyno numbers and not racing?

This dyno sheet is labeled drag xx like the bb one. If 62hp is your sae number than why didn't you put that in the dyno thread since you have an obsession with high dyno numbers and not racing?

I am not obsessed with dyno #. I have done a lot of r&d on the XX. I purchased and sold all the other parts. I was going to post that build when i got home because it was missing the TQ #s. Just a fyi both of my builds have Cuervo/HDD Racing heads now:rock:

I am not obsessed with dyno #. I have done a lot of r&d on the XX. I purchased and sold all the other parts. I was going to post that build when i got home because it was missing the TQ #s. Just a fyi both of my builds have Cuervo Racing heads now
Make sure you get a camera or use your current one to get these machines racing. We plan on having several cameras out for different angles when I race at the dunes. Mine rips way harder than the last set up and I'm going out there with the right tires this time! Going to be an epic season! Do I hear a kill thread coming?

Final note for the EHS build...

I took the XX out on the street since I couldn't hook up in the dirt. When doing this I couldn't keep the front end down when stabbing the throttle. She is going to be a handful this year and I can't wait to get some races under my belt. Low to top end power is awesome! Eric did an excellent job with the cam. Here is a final dyno chart with a comparable on the same dyno with the same tires. Crash21 has a stock head with stage 2 Hot Cam and an 11:1 CP piston. His machine put down a peak 45hp while mine put down a peak 55hp. 10 more peak horse power, pretty awesome job on porting and cam design from Eric at EHS. Heres the interesting part though. When you're racing and winding those gears out Crash21 is left with 36hp at 8500rpm. My EHS build is still making 51hp at this point!!! That is some rediculous over rev! It all looks good on paper, can't wait to see this beast perform against Crash21 and so many others. Its going to be a great season! Thanks again to Eric for all his hard work and excellent customer service!!!

Here is a link to the dyno chart showing peak numbers and pointing out the crazy power this build is still making at 8500rpm.
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx329/BlackM50/CCvsSM.jpg