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does anyone have a new F150? I just traded my 2008 F150 Limited on a 2010 F150 XLT. I thought I would be disappointed because I was giving up leather, moon roof, heated seats, back up camera ect.. But the new F150 is awsome! I did get the Microsoft Sync System. That thing rocks! But I can't get over how well the truck drives! I have always been a Chevy guy but I saw that 2008 Limited and fell in love. I now refuse to buy a Chevy and will never do so till the Government gets there hands out of GM (Government Motors). But I can say that the New Ford is the nicest truck I have ever driven. If you are in the market you need to look!
 

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Sounds like someone has been hanging out with Mike Rowe...:lmao:
No but really, I really like the new F150 and would have one if it wasn't for a less than satisfactory driving record (insurance won't have me). And I agree with you on GM. There's no way I could support them after all of the crap they've pulled. Onlly new vehicle I would buy would be a Ford!
 

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My '93 has 286,000 miles on the first engine after 18 years and it still takes a punishing like you wouldn't believe. I had an '06 FX4 with every option that was absolutely perfect for 60,000 miles without a single hiccup. I don't see how you can beat one. The next time I buy a pickup it will definitely be a new F150. In fact, I can't wait. But hell, you have to let a good one die before you ditch it. That's the only thing that I don't like about F150s. You get to love one and it never dies and you never get to have a new one unless you just buy new ones all the time.

And my '09 Focus has Sync and yes it is awesome. I like the "play all" ipod feature where you just hit the steering wheel button to cycle randomly through everything. And the bluetooth sounds great to people you're calling. It's a great system.
 

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I like the looks of the ford 2nd to my GMC. Now the Ford Raptor thing they just released..... Is FUGLY!!! I do have to agree with scuzz though, Simple plug changes are not possible on a ford.
 

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i like the new fords too. i have a 98 f150 and it runs great. the only problems i had with it is if you get the plugs wet then your gonna have to change em cause it starts missin like crazy. the only other problem i have had with my ford is the front brakes tend to stick if you use them alot in a certain amount of time, but other than that, the fords are the best! i wish i had the money to get a ford Raptor though. lol they look freakin awesome and they're supposed to be bad to the bone
 

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Thank you for not supporting GM. I fully agree there.

And I have a 2010 Fusion and that Sync is awesome. Couldn't live without it now. Ford has really stepped up their vehicles recently. I have gone from a hater to a fan.
 

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I couldn't agree more, Obamanation can keep is GM crap! Shame to see our country going down the road to socialism rapidly! Anyway I better put down my crackberry and put both hands on the wheel of my F150. Lol
 

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<------ Absolutely HATES the Triton 5.4.

Plugs that are on the inside of the head, UNDER the fuel rail. PITA COP that go bad.

I had 4 go bad on a '98 Expedition and after #5 went bad my wife had to hold me back from the matches with the lighter fluid in my hand.

I will never own another Ford again.

(I'll save my 99 Explorer Limited story for another time.)
My '93 takes five minutes to change the plugs and my '06 took about twenty. I guess the head was different from the '06 back in '98. The only reason it took twenty was because of the back plug, I think on the passenger side, was a tough reach. Isn't the fuel rail on the '98 held down by just a few bolts? It couldn't have been as bad as my fiancee's old Sebring that the back half intake manifold had to be removed to get to the back plugs. It took me an afternoon to get back there and sew her up, but it was the first time it had to be done in 150,000 miles. Oh well, I started out in a '79 5.0 Capri and I'll probably end in a Ford as well. At least we have choices.
 

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I got a 97 stang gt and the family has a little bit of everything ford too. a one ton down to an escort they all run great. I like the newer vehicles alot, but just got out of 2 of 3 car payments and wife wants a house before i buy another vehicle and i agree with her on this one.
 

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Isn't the fuel rail on the '98 held down by just a few bolts? It couldn't have been as bad as my fiancee's old Sebring that the back half intake manifold had to be removed to get to the back plugs. It took me an afternoon to get back there and sew her up, but it was the first time it had to be done in 150,000 miles.
I'm not making this a Ford V Chevy debate, but rather sharing my experience and frustration. I have included ONLY my experience, not the experiences of people I know or things I have read.

It was a MAJOR PITA. It took several extensions on a 1/2 to 1/4 drive ruducer to a swivel to a 7mm socket to get the #4 (passenger side rear) Coil On Plug off. The fuel real was easy enough to get off after you take the engine cover off. The real problem was on the fuel injector o-rings that would fly off and into the open intake manifold razor chasm. Of course above the #4 plug was all the coolant lines for the rear a/c making it a job for someone with the hands of a three year old on the arms of someone 8 feet tall.
I traded it in for a 2003 Suburban and couldn't be happier. The chevy/GM 5.3 is a (in my opinion) a much better engine, is easier to maintain and had more HP and torque for that model year. Also everything still works and I have nearly twice the mileage as I had on the expedition. On the expedition the A/C worked but the "blend door" that was evidently what the truck was built around was broken so it would only blow out cold air, which was awesome in July from Dallas to New Orleans, but that same drive in December meant that in order for us to have heat in the rear, the front air conditioner had to be on too and since the blend door was stuck on cold the front basically froze and the rear melted under hellish heat.

The Explorer had even more issues with my wife having to stop while giving it gas so it wouldn't kill due to the SOHC V-6 EGR valve/sensor (I may have the name wrong, this was back in 2002) constantly getting full of carbon and reading incorrectly. On both the Expedition and the Explorer the wipers would only work sometimes and at the speed that they wanted to work at. The radio was integrated into the steering wheel which was cool but the display didn't work due to some improper heat sink solder joints that failed all the time. (the radio would get incredibly hot)

All that and the Rubbermaid interiors ruined me on Ford forever. The only vehicles that Ford makes that I would consider buying is the new Taurus and the Mustang.



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congrads on the new truck! they are very nice. oh and dont worry someday you will come back into the light and get a chevy again.:lmao:
 

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Well I can tell you working for a Lincoln Mercury store for the past 21 years our quality and saftey is great now. I also do the lemon laws and I havent (knock on wood) had one since 2005! We have come a long way and for a dealers perspective had to get rid of old school and bring in new school to see us get were we are today! So don't count Ford out due to our prior history we are far from that company we use to be :)



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I own a 2010 F-150 scab and love the truck. I myself have owned a Ford truck for about 12 years now starting off with an '83 F-150 then a '98 Ranger, after that a '01 ranger edge and now the '10 F-150. By far Ford has the best truck out for a number of reasons including them not accepting any goverment money.

http://www.youtube.com/user/fordtrucks#p/p

Click the link and then select "the truth about trucks" along the right. Watch all the videos and see for yourself
 

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The 2010 F150 is just simply put gorgeous. I love the look of the Raptor F150, would look even nicer with my rappy in the back! LOL. I have owned 2 Chevys and never again, have owned fords since 2001 and will continue to buy em. Chevys I had a 95 Cheyenne and a 98 s-10, the Cheyennes a/c compressor blew in 97 and the fuel pump 6 months later, it overall just felt cheap, loved the way it looked though. The S-10 was just a big ass lemon, sold it in 2001 for $3k... After that I have owned a Ranger edge, then a Ranger 05 and now have 2 Escapes, one is a 2008 and the other an 09, sweet little SUVs and zero troubles on all Fords. Oh and still have a 95 Ranger with around 180k miles to haul my quad around and have only had to replace a clutch. The only Chevy I would ever buy is a Tahoe.
 

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I have the 09,(same body style, same truck). LOVE IT!!! I've got about 25000 miles on mine allready. The stock tires suck, but other than that my truck is great. I got the xl model because I'm just a poor little white boy from the mountains, LOL, but i bought it new.
 

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I'm not making this a Ford V Chevy debate, but rather sharing my experience and frustration. I have included ONLY my experience, not the experiences of people I know or things I have read.

It was a MAJOR PITA. It took several extensions on a 1/2 to 1/4 drive ruducer to a swivel to a 7mm socket to get the #4 (passenger side rear) Coil On Plug off. The fuel real was easy enough to get off after you take the engine cover off. The real problem was on the fuel injector o-rings that would fly off and into the open intake manifold razor chasm. Of course above the #4 plug was all the coolant lines for the rear a/c making it a job for someone with the hands of a three year old on the arms of someone 8 feet tall.
I traded it in for a 2003 Suburban and couldn't be happier. The chevy/GM 5.3 is a (in my opinion) a much better engine, is easier to maintain and had more HP and torque for that model year. Also everything still works and I have nearly twice the mileage as I had on the expedition. On the expedition the A/C worked but the "blend door" that was evidently what the truck was built around was broken so it would only blow out cold air, which was awesome in July from Dallas to New Orleans, but that same drive in December meant that in order for us to have heat in the rear, the front air conditioner had to be on too and since the blend door was stuck on cold the front basically froze and the rear melted under hellish heat.

The Explorer had even more issues with my wife having to stop while giving it gas so it wouldn't kill due to the SOHC V-6 EGR valve/sensor (I may have the name wrong, this was back in 2002) constantly getting full of carbon and reading incorrectly. On both the Expedition and the Explorer the wipers would only work sometimes and at the speed that they wanted to work at. The radio was integrated into the steering wheel which was cool but the display didn't work due to some improper heat sink solder joints that failed all the time. (the radio would get incredibly hot)

All that and the Rubbermaid interiors ruined me on Ford forever. The only vehicles that Ford makes that I would consider buying is the new Taurus and the Mustang.
I don't doubt what you say at all. There are lots of cars with problems regardless of who made them.

I am curious if you were the original owner of the ones that had problems other than the plug issue.

I bought an '09 Focus SES coupe last summer and absolutely love it. I traded in an old Roadmaster and wound up paying $9600 OTD thanks to Cash For Clunkers. The sticker was $19,000. I love it for what it is. Everyone who rides in it is shocked at what all it offers: sunroof, subwoofer, SYNC, Sirius standard, LED lighting, leather, etc. I buy whatever is best for the price and I think you should give Ford a chance if you buy a new car in the near future.

That said, I think the Malibu and Camaro are also excellent vehicles although I don't know about long-term quality.
 

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I only owned two Fords, and yes.

Sidenote though, my dad was always a GM guy until he got his first Toyota truck. Now he's on his second truck with 300k plus miles. He only got ride of his forst one because my mom totalled it. His current Tacoma V-6 has nearly 400k and is still on it's original clutch, alternator, engine, tranny, a/c compressor and everything else.

This is why I own a Toyota Tacoma. (that get's shittier gas mileage than a full-sized truck.)

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