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I will preface this by saying I'm going to very objectional in that I'm not going by what people say or what I read. I own both. I've rode both. And this is my experience.

My Experience - I grew up riding a TRX250 and TRX200. Both 2wd utility quads. They're primary use were for deer hunting in Texas and Missouri. My father and I have been all over east Texas in mud and west Texas in sandier hillier (if that's a word) and rockier terrains. I've had my 2wd 200 in some places 4wd quads wouldn't go. I know how to ride fast and in control (for the most part). I've rode my Honda for about 8 months. I ride with a very capable group of guys whether they have experience or balls. I recently picked up a Raptor 700r as a spare quad. This past weekend I had a good day to actually ride it and put it to use.

The Raptor 700r
- The raptor is a great looking bike. The aftermarket is definitely there and there is a STRONG following. I think its funny when you search "700xx" on eBay motors for parts and ~200 show up and you search "raptor" and 2000+ show up. It's a do everything bike to me, even though it may not do everything as well others it seems to be a good quad.

Strengths - I'll start with what I noticed that it has over my Honda. It feels like it makes more torque. It feels stronger, even though I know its not. I know it has smaller tires but every time I hit the gas I was drifting from one side to the other - it likes to slide. I have been heavily into road racing and and the slowest way around the track is sliding or drifting. If you're sliding you're losing time. Maybe that doesn't apply to dirt, but I would think it does. The Raptor feels like the powerband is very linear and smooth. It was more fun in loose sand than my Honda but around here - there's not much of that. It does great doughnuts. I do like the front shocks more than the front shocks on my Honda, they seem to be a bit softer.

Weaknesses - The rear end. Two weekends in a row I've seen someone fly over the handles bars on a Raptor 700r because the rear end kicked them in the rear and bucked them off. The second one being myself. :nuts: It must be because the rearend is so much lighter than my Honda that it doesn't like to stay on the ground on the kickers. The Raptor was not at home in the rocks and doesn't feel very stable on them. It wants to flip forward every chance it gets. My Honda never had this problem, once again the weight in the rear I think helps that. Make sure you have skid plates on this thing cause you WILL get hung up, hit, get stuck on rocks all over the place. I actually hit one rock that put a pretty good size dent in the lower A arm. I checked out my Honda and thanks to the ground clearance, there aren't any rock dents or dings of any kind. (I will be getting A arm guards and skid plates soon though). Another bad thing about this is the ground clearance itself. One particular hill - about 10 feet up - nothing large, took 4 tries to get up it, and the only reason I got up it was because I had enough speed to slide the rear up the hill. Otherwise it kept getting high centered.

I'm sure there are other strengths and weaknesses out there about the Raptor. Your decision should be based on what you do with it, how you ride and your experience. Neither of these are for beginners. If you ride the type of stuff that's very technical with obstacles I wouldn't think twice about picking the Honda. If you ride mainly in the sand or smooth terrain, I think I'd go with a Raptor. Either way - they're both good quads and very different. But i'll stick with my Honda. :yay:
 

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Well the sra makes it slide better, and ur mostly correct swope I have also owned both.
 

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funny thing you posted this on the raptor site but you ended with you would stick to your raptor!!! lol kidding

Seriously we rode some rocky areas this weekend and I had no problems...my husband was following my path on his polaris and he hit rocks I cruised over...was impressed and told me I did my research well and bought a great quad! couldn't agree more :)



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I rode with three raptors sunday, all guys who liked to go ride trails and test thier machines in the mud. They looked at me to set the bar for each obstacle. This just proves that the Honda is the best for technical and rough terrain. They've never seen the Honda in action but now they have a whole new respect for it!!!!
 

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I really think this is what its going to take to make this quad really shine. Prove it. And not to sound conceded or anything, but if I took off and started riding within my ability on technical terrain with difficult obstacles. It'd be a while before anyone caught up... if you're reading this and you ride with me - yes that is a challenge, unless you ride an XX (Gary) hahah.

My biggest complaint about the raptor is ground clearance. That alone will keep it from going where I don't have a problem.
 

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There rear shock is not set good from Yamaha on all of the 700s. It needs to be stiffened up a couple of clicks on the compression and slowed down a couple of clicks on the rebound. Fixes it everytime.
 

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As far as the ground clearance thing, you just have to ride it a bit different and be more vigilant for rocks coming up in the center of your quad. When I had my 400ex i could always tell the rocks that would hit the skid plate and the ones that wouldn't. I would even make the "PING" sound when I knew it was going to hit.

I rode my 400EX at Red River and there wasn't any technical trail I coudn't tackle with it. It just took a different technique. Some trails I knew it was going to bang the skid plate and just went up anyway. Sometimes you're going to break stuff while having fun...

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I would love to have a raptor for the sand I like to ride in...



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As far as the ground clearance thing, you just have to ride it a bit different and be more vigilant for rocks coming up in the center of your quad. When I had my 400ex i could always tell the rocks that would hit the skid plate and the ones that wouldn't. I would even make the "PING" sound when I knew it was going to hit.

I rode my 400EX at Red River and there wasn't any technical trail I coudn't tackle with it. It just took a different technique. Some trails I knew it was going to bang the skid plate and just went up anyway. Sometimes you're going to break stuff while having fun...

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I would love to have a raptor for the sand I like to ride in...
Yeah - I think the raptor would be great in the sand. I wanted to take it out to where Ben was superman but you have to cross some water to get there. It was about 8" deep last time. I got up to the headlights and I was still pointed down before I gave up on the raptor. I was about thigh deep (insert short joke here) when i quit.

I didn't have near as much fun on the raptor as I did the Honda sunday.
 

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Rode the Honda again today - I FREAKIN LOVE THIS THING!!!! Rappy bad!
 
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