[Scott3B]

I have been emailing companies about a A-Arm & shock kit I was told that the 700 & 450 arms are the same is this true? has any one tried this?looking for some +1 & triple rates has anyone used some +1 or +2 would like some impressions from some one who has used them or is using them
Thanks

 

[OzLinc]

I have been emailing companies about a A-Arm & shock kit I was told that the 700 & 450 arms are the same is this true?

450 & 700XX are not the same......You may want to check out Houser Racing, they have a +3/4 inch arm & shock kit.

 

[Scott3B]

Hey Scott,

Thanks for touching base but unfortunately, we don’t do anything for the 700 and I don’t anticipate it happening in the near future. The front end is actually identical to the TRX450 and we have sold kits to guys for that application but I don't know what they are doing with the rear.

Sorry I couldn’t be of more help.

this is the reply from Hydo dynamics this is why I am Asking, I am aware of the the houser kit just shopping around for some thing more afordable not sure if I want +1 or + 2.

 

[OzLinc]

Hey Scott,

Thanks for touching base but unfortunately, we don’t do anything for the 700 and I don’t anticipate it happening in the near future. The front end is actually identical to the TRX450 and we have sold kits to guys for that application but I don't know what they are doing with the rear.

I have both......it doesn't fit. You have to get a specific 700XX kit.

 

[ceballos]

No they are not the same... Houser has some, I have the Laeger +2 setup, Tex Tech will be coming out with some, and if all goes well, I will be working with JD Performance this summer and come up with something for the XX...

 

[Scott3B]

how do you like the + 2 setup & have you ever tried the houser +3/4 setup looking for the pros & cons

 

[Baxter]

The +2 is good for mx ,desert ,dunes and fire roads. The +3/4 is for xc and tight trails.

 

[wayne matlock]

The +2 is good for mx ,desert ,dunes and fire roads. The +3/4 is for xc and tight trails.

The houser +3/4 arms work great in the desert, I use them with a 4/1 DWT wheel. This setup will also work good in the woods to. On this quad wider is not better, the wider you go the more the front end will push in the turns.

 

[Baxter]

What ride height do you use Wayne. I am struggling with suspension set up . I coming to think it may because of the wide rear due to using 10" rims.

 

[RemingtonSteel]

i just ordered my houser arm and elka shocks just playing the waiting game cant wait to try them out at the dunes

 

[Baxter]

I am waiting to the end of the year and seeing whats availible before I spend alot of $ on suspension.

 

[Scott3B]

Thanks for the replies think you guys made up my mind I do alot of trail & some dune riding but always end up on a small short track , dont want more push will more than likely go with the 3/4" setup with 4+1 with some triple rates. what have you guys done with the rear width & Arms.

 

[Scott3B]

wayne if I start out at 46 wide Add 1.5"with the Houser setup to 47.5" then put the 4+1 wheels & I go back to 45.5"wide Looks like you are telling me narrow is better for handling? looks like what I would be getting with the housers is narower & adjustable Castor & Camber this sound About right or am I missing something.

 

[wayne matlock]

wayne if I start out at 46 wide Add 1.5"with the Houser setup to 47.5" then put the 4+1 wheels & I go back to 45.5"wide Looks like you are telling me narrow is better for handling? looks like what I would be getting with the housers is narower & adjustable Castor & Camber this sound About right or am I missing something.

It does look that way if you think 1+1=2, but on quads 1+1=2ish. Your math is right, just the numbers are off. The stock Honda wheels are not a 3/2 they are 1 7/8" on the out side, and DWT wheels are not 4/1 they are 1 1/2" on the out side, so thats only 3/8 of an inch narrower per side than stock. So if you add the Houser arm at 3/4" back in there you are +3/8 of an inch wider per side, with a total of 3/4" wider than stock. And another thing that I have to add in is tire size. The width of a quad is measured from out side of tire to out side of tire. The stock tire hangs out past the stock wheel 3/16 of an inch, and a Maxxis 23" hangs out past a DWT wheel 9/16 of an inch.
So that makes the quad 3/4 of a inch wider + 3/4 of an inch from the Houser arms and the DWT wheels all adds up to 47 1/2 inches wide. And when we set our quads up, we set them with sag in the shocks. So at ride height (that means with the rider sitting on the quad) the quad gets wider because of wheel scrub and that puts our quad at 48 inches wide. Just remember why you bought this quad, I would hope that it was for riding or racing on trails or in the desert and not MX. If that is the case than this setup is the way to go. I hope this clears up some of your questions.

 

[Baxter]

What ride height do you set it to ?

 

[TRX700XXX]

DWT 3:2 front wheels making it 47.5 wide in the front and 46 in the rear would help understeer more than stock wheels right??

 

[aceoutdoor]

What ride height do you set it to ?

I second that. What ride height do you guys run for desert and do you run the front 1/2 inch higher like a straight axle quad? Thanks

 

[smo0oth1]

That's some great info, thanks for the detailed post.

 

[wayne matlock]

I'm not sure about the ride hight with our new settings. We just spent three days out in the desert tunning shocks, and went stiffer on our spring rates. We also raised our ride hight, so I will check it out and let you guys know.

 

[Scott3B]

Wayne thanks for the info you have cleared up all my question about the front A- arms & yes I bought the 700 for the trails & Dunes not MX. would you mind sharring what you have done with the rear are you running the 3/4" rear houser setup? if so what wheel off set 5-2 or 3-4. Again thanks for sharing the info it is much apperciated.