[keksixsigma]

Hi all im new and for the hour i rode my xx on some rutted muddy trails at Carolina Adventureworld in SC, i can say it was as a dream to trail ride compared to my former 700 raptor..Until.

I was in some mud, put it in reverse to turn around went about 5 feet then nothing. engine reved but wheels didn't move, 1st gear same,.. cluth felt the same, you could even feel it go into gear, up and down, but no chain movement.

What happened. Ran great up till then, no problems, clutch strong in fact ingaged so fast that i would stall it from time to time if i didn't give it a little gas.


Sorry so wordy i just wanted to give as many details as possible.
Help

-newly proud owner but down and out

 

[smo0oth1]

Sounds like your clutch is out of adjustment. I'm sure the warranty will cover the problem> keep us posted

 

[700woodsrider]

I would check for freeplay in the clutch lever. The lever should not be tight against the perch when the clutch is released, there should be some freepaly or the cluch will not fully engage and could eventually burn up.

 

[phucknutz]

sorry to hear that, I agree the clutch is way too tight. You may have burned it up. Warranty will probably cover it but if not call Hinson Clutch Components. They make a clutch kit with heavy springs that is top notch. I had to get one in a hurry after my engine came back from EHS. She was putting out so much horse power and torque that the stock clutch was slipping! The cost is less than the factor will charge you for a stock clutch.

 

[smo0oth1]

How much are the Hinson Clutch kits?

 

[keksixsigma]

thanks for advice thus far

as for freeplay, my clutch did sit all the way aganst the stop with no freeplay when enganged, also, it seemed to engage very quickly as soon as i let it out from the grip. i made no adjustments from what the dealer gave me as i don't know how to do that. Im surprised its a weak point because i've heard this is the same clutch aas the cr500. I'll let you u guys know, if they say clutch is fried, im going to push they replace this one because it could have only been because they had it out of adjustment. it was a muddy day an alot of tire spin, which is easer on clutches than hardpack. still, i'll be looking to upgrade if this is what i can expect from a honda clutch. what a shame.

 

[THREESVTS]

Sorry to hear that. CAW is an awesome place though. Ive been there probably 50 times in the past year and a half. I got a membership so its pretty cheap!!

 

[scuzz]

it was a muddy day an alot of tire spin, which is easer on clutches than hardpack. still

Yeah the mud would have made the clutch slip more and make it harder for you to determine weather it was the clutch or the tires spinning.


If anything I would think that mud would be harder on clutches than hard pack which I would think would make it roll easier.

But hey, I've been wrong before. Sorry to hear about your problem.

 

[smo0oth1]

Any time the tires are spinning it will be easier on the clutch. When on hard pack and the tires are gripping there is more strain due to torque transfer

The xx clutch really isn't a weak link, any clutch failure is almost gauranteed to be improper adjustment or to much HP

 

[smo0oth1]

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[scuzz]

Hmm...I'd be willing to bet that was less of an issue on hardpack with the stock tires.

 

[tbird88]

Hmm...I'd be willing to bet that was less of an issue on hardpack with the stock tires.

owner-operator?

 

[scuzz]

owner-operator?

Que?

 

[keksixsigma]

Any time the tires are spinning it will be easier on the clutch. When on hard pack and the tires are gripping there is more strain due to torque transfer

The xx clutch really isn't a weak link, any clutch failure is almost gauranteed to be improper adjustment or to much HP

i hope to find out. I'm bone stock so HP shouldn't be the issue. This is where we get into not Honda's treatment but how yiour local Dealer makes the experience. fingers are crossed, i don't get service done there, only buy as they have better prices than in town. i hope their service department is worth a darn.

 

[warlock28]

With such a new machine, it may have been a setup issue from the dealer. Typical Honda fit and finish is outstanding. Dealer preparation on the other hand often leaves something to be desired (the sixteen year old in the back).

Experience has taught me that a complete inspection of the machine after taking it home has saved me countless problems. We should start a thread that contains a checklist of things to inspect when the new hotness arrives home. A few things come to mind:

1. Check all fluid levels as per the manual (oil, coolant, brakes)
2. Check all cables for proper tension and adjustment
3. Check that all shipping shims, bolts, tags, ect... have been removed
4. Check torque values for wheels, shaft bolts, shock bolts, ect...
5. Lubricate the chain and cables
6. Check that the air filter has been properly oiled

After first run:

1. Change the oil and check all other fluids
2. Clean and inspect the entire machine
3. Check torque values again
4. Clean the air filter and re-oil

More long term items should also be checked. I have found on a number of occasions that the factory often uses minimal grease on the majority of the moving parts. One thing I typically do is pull most of the suspension and re-grease everything after the first 25 to 50 hours. I know it is a pain, but it saved the wife’s DR350 from a set of dry bearings from the factory.

:hey:

 

[smo0oth1]

Hmm...I'd be willing to bet that was less of an issue on hardpack with the stock tires.

What would be less of an issue?

 

[scuzz]

Drivetrain impact via torque as the stock tires don't hook up for squat.

It also depends on the driver.

 

[smo0oth1]

I'm not sure if we were agreeing or agreeing to disagree lol, I was stating that any tire hooking up puts more effort on the clutch than a tire spinning. The exception might be a large lug mud tire that would collect and sling mud. It takes allot less torque to spin a tire compared to a tire that is hooked up trying to accelerate 500lb forward

 

[scuzz]

No worries. So far on exriders people voted 10-0 that mud is harder on clutches than hard pack.

 

[skier207]

Drive sprocket bolt tight????