[D.Shobe]

I have an 08 and I'm going to get a controller first.I don't plan on any engine mods only slip on or maybe full exhaust and air filter /lid .

 

[Nash04]

I personally would get the PCIII with Bo's maps. This way, when you do more upgrades, it will be easy to update it.

 

[THREESVTS]

X2 for the PC3 or PC5. Very easy to install, adjust, and allows for future mods. The other ones out there are not nearly as good and you're limited for adjustments down the roads.

 

[D.Shobe]

I am leaning towards pc3, been hearing about the EHS controller is it like the Dobechs or the pc3? and on the pc3 do you have to hook it to computer to set it or can you just use the buttons on the unit to do it all? thanx.

 

[THREESVTS]

The E.H.S is like the Dobeck and you're limited in the long run. The PC3 will need a map loaded. You can either do it yourself by hooking it up to a laptop or desktop if you'd like since it's a USB connection. Or you buy one from certain vendors that will load one for you depending on your mods. It's really simple to change a map so don't think it's complicated or anything. Only takes about 15 seconds to load a map. The PC5, once it has a base map, can change automatically depending on conditions since it has a sensor that comes with the Auto Tune kit. If you go with a full exhaust, you can get one with a bung welded in so it has a provision for the sensor. It's a little more expensive but IMO totally worth it.

 

[droby1242]

Look with the mods your talking EHS is fine. I personally went with the PCIII because I am going to crack the seal on the engine this winter. But if all your going to do is exhuast and filter mods EHS is a good one from what i hear. Also Dobec will be fine.

 

[Nash04]

For PCIII maps, they do have some on their web site but I would ask Bo or Scuzz for the maps since they were created for our bike and they are great!

 

[VelociRaptor]

Ive only tuned Dobecks and PCs so thats all I can give an honest opinion on.

 

[D.Shobe]

who has the best price on a pc3 or pc5?

 

[Nash04]

You can buy it here; http://fuelmotousa.com/power_commander.htm

for $259 or you can do a search in this forum and there's allot of info concerning this item.

 

[D.Shobe]

Ok,thanx to all for the info.

 

[Crash21]

FuelMoto is great. Thats where I got my PCIII for my street bike. The only thing you have to watch out for is their fuel maps. For the most part is was good except in one of the map boxes they had it adding waaaay to much fuel. The box was at like 21 when most others were at 2-8. It caused me to bog in the middle of my rpms. I swapped their map for one at dynojet and it worked great then

 

[THREESVTS]

What I don't understand is people saying that "since you're not going into the engine just get an E.H.S controller". The price difference between the two is minimal, so why not get the better controller? Yo never know what you're going to do a year or two down the road. Money spent well now is money you won't need to spend later.

 

[Crash21]

For me the PCIII doesn't seem as water tight and I like to play in the mud and water often. The EHS one seems to be sealed up tight

 

[700xxmaniac]

For me the PCIII doesn't seem as water tight and I like to play in the mud and water often. The EHS one seems to be sealed up tight

looks can be disiving

 

[VelociRaptor]

Put it in a ziplock bag, any of them should be done that way.

 

[crwh45]

I put mine in a soap box. However, I had the whole PCIII submerged in water and it didn't leak at all.

 

[Superswire]

What I don't understand is people saying that "since you're not going into the engine just get an E.H.S controller". The price difference between the two is minimal, so why not get the better controller? Yo never know what you're going to do a year or two down the road. Money spent well now is money you won't need to spend later.

:yay:I actually agree alot with the PC, in the long run you will be happier knowing you can change your map to ANY engine mods, you can even customize/create your map at home AND hook ignition modules to them, i'm not sure about the other ones, but i was confused at first as to which one to get for my cbr1000, glad i went with the pcIII though, i simply carried my laptop to my garage and downloaded a map for my filter which took a very small amount of time. Down the road I purchased a boz bros full exhaust and just installed a new map. A few monthc later, i bought the ignition module and unsure how to really fine tune it, i took it to a freinds dyno...he hooked up to my bike in about 30 seconds after strapping it down and had it breathing fire within an hour...i definately think Pc has the most user friendly system and most maps are free to download if you have a registered unit...

On the other hand, my buddy has a two-brothers full system and juicebox on his kfx450r and he likes it, so guess its just my opinion ???

 

[EHSRACING]

What I don't understand is people saying that "since you're not going into the engine just get an E.H.S controller". The price difference between the two is minimal, so why not get the better controller? Yo never know what you're going to do a year or two down the road. Money spent well now is money you won't need to spend later.

Im just curious define "better" i dont think most people realize what each controller is actually capable of.

If someone buys a controller that is capable of more but never spends the time or $$ to utilize it does it work better?

If you use a pc3 with a prebuilt map that someone else designed does it work the same on every machine?

What are the limitations for each controller?

How does each controller actually work?

Have you used autotune and then actually compared the compiled map against a actual tuned map?

Have you tried the difference between a generic pc3 map and any other form of controller?

Im just curious and my questions are open for response they are not meant to be cynical in anyway im just more so curious what the general perceptions of peoples are between the 2 styles. i think a lot of mis/bad information gets circulted and also the controller we make gets lumpped into the mix of all the others that look like it because the look alike.

 

[rappyfreak]

Good questions Eric, probably the only question I have is: Can the EHS controller remove fuel as well? Not being sarcastic or anything, just wanna learn. Also agree that a badly set up FI controller of any kind is just as bad.