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I agree, when we go out we do our best to tread lightly on public land and only ride on family owned private land(with permission) so we dont get anyone mad and lose our privelages to ride. We get alot of people up here winter and summer who dont respect others property and will go any where they please. and they dont tread lightly any place their track or tire hits terra firma. The local farmers are getting tired of destroyed crops and fields. It is a matter of time until this issue comes to us up here too. We got a state riding park less than 2 miles from the house and that isnt enough land to make them happy they spill out on to private land and cause every rider problems. Sorry to rant, but it pisses me off big time because the heat falls on those of us that live here year round, and we didnt do anything wrong.
 

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First I would love to see things change in NJ!!!! Second the good people out number the bad but like everything in life...the bad stands out and gets noticed.



 

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Ain't that the truth. NJ is like a whole other world away from the northern sticks up here I would like to visit its trails some day. Along with some other locations. I don't get out much.
 

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I can't say I blame people who are ignorant of ATVs for being mad. First, the people on the ATV side who are causing the problems are ignorant morons with no respect for their lives, much less public lands. Second, the people who think the small group of a-holes that ruin it for everyone represent the masses of ATV riders are also ignorant morons. This whole problem is ignorance all around.
 

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I agree completely.
 

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All it takes is one a-hole to rip through someone's backyard in 4th gear, and everyone suffers. It is bad enough Jersey is known as the no-fun state, but when you add white trash and ignorance, it makes matters worse.

I read in the paper some guy in Jackson, NJ got air lifted to the hospital after his quad rolled on him. I hope he is ok and recovers fully.

Now you now what that means...people will start bitchin about quads and how unsafe the are. So the regulations and laws, especially in that area, will get tighter. Hope it doesn't effect what they are trying to accomplish in NJ.
 

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Lately, we've had a number of serious crashes involving ATVs / MX bikes in New England. The link below is the latest fatality, however last weekend there were 6 people on 1 ATV who reportedly plunged off a 700 (yes 700) foot cliff, and the week before that a teenager, running from the police, crashed into a gate on an MX bike and was killed.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/23112841/detail.html
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/23052916/detail.html

Hopefully these will be the last of the statistics for the riding season, but it is very early.
 

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people are just dumb... this is why legal places are so few...

Weatherly chief crashes police car

By TOM RAGAN (Staff Writer)
Published: April 11, 2010

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JAMIE PESOTINE/Staff Photographer A Weatherly police cruiser was heavily damaged after striking a utility pole near Buck Mountain and Stage Coach roads Saturday.




State police at Hazleton are investigating an incident involving a group of all-terrain vehicles that caused damage to a state conservation vehicle and during which a Weatherly police officer slammed a borough police car into a pole Saturday.
Weatherly Borough Manager Harold Pudliner Jr. said the incident began around 5 p.m. Saturday when an officer of the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources contacted Weatherly police about seven or eight four-wheel ATVs that caused damage to a DCNR vehicle.
Weatherly Police Chief Brian Markovchick told Pudliner that he was asked to assist the DCNR officer in rounding up the ATV riders who may have been responsible for the damage to one of the conservation department's vehicles.
Pudliner said Markovchick was looking for the ATVs and traveling on South Stage Coach Road near Buck Mountain Road in Lausanne Township. Pudliner said the chief was adjusting his police radio when the Weatherly police car struck a telephone pole, almost snapping it in half.
Markovchick was not injured in the crash, according to Pudliner.
The police car sustained heavy front-end damage. Pudliner estimated that the car was traveling about 35 mph when it slammed into the pole.
The police car was towed away with a tow truck and flatbed trailer. Two Weatherly police officers got in their vehicles and left the scene when a Standard-Speaker reporter and photographer arrived.
Pudliner said the borough has insurance on the police vehicle. He also said the ATV riders responsible for the incident will face serious charges when caught by police.
Reached by telephone Saturday night, a DCNR official confirmed that at least one ATV driver was caught and that charges will be filed. The incident began near the Lehigh Tannery area, according to the official.
He did not say what charges will be filed but did confirm that a DCNR officer was run off the road by the ATVs and a state conservation vehicle was damaged.
The state conservation officer was not injured. The agency is expected to release more information today.
The DCNR officer said state police at Hazleton were investigating the incidents. Troopers did not release any information about the Weatherly police car crash or the incident involving the ATVs and the DCNR vehicle.



 

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Bunch of idiots causing us more problems and perhaps less places to ride but again that's weird an atv can run off a dcnr vehicle of the road especially when the atv is much smaller!!! As for the cop, can't blame the atv for his lack of directions or control. Guess the pole was in the wrong place!!!
 

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after talking to someone the dumb atv rider rammed the forest ranger what an ass...



 

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Just sounds like a-hole cops looking for scape goats to me. Funny how if a cop does something stupid to themselves you will face more charges to compensate for their anger. God bless the cops.
 

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Just sounds like a-hole cops looking for scape goats to me. Funny how if a cop does something stupid to themselves you will face more charges to compensate for their anger. God bless the cops.
the cop may may have made a mistake to cause the crash but i wouldnt say he did it to himself. if the little shithead kids wouldnt have ran the ranger off the road he wouldnt have been chasing them...
 

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all it takes is 1 bad apple... The local & State police,Game commission, D.C.N.R. and the Park Rangers are on the war path with a 0 tolerance toward ATV's due to the incident.... so this is in PA so anyone not riding legal should be cautious since these jerks have put us in the spotlight to be made examples of...

now heres a question if your reg in PA can they still impound or just ticket you? what if your reg out of state?



 

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DCNR would be the best place to ask but if I'm not wrong, as long as your bike is registered and insured in your state then they'll give you a ticket unless you did something very stupid and did not stop when ask to. It all depends on the arresting officer's mood.
 

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after talking to someone the dumb atv rider rammed the forest ranger what an ass...
What was a ranger doing working on a Sunday and most of the land there is private unless these idiots were near a reservoir which we all know since 911 it's a big NO-NO.
 

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What was a ranger doing working on a Sunday and most of the land there is private unless these idiots were near a reservoir which we all know since 911 it's a big NO-NO.

I think by the tracks ...it happened on state land and then the locals got involved so I think they might have been crossing between private property...



 

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Yeah! Now I know where you are talking about, been told by Al that they do cover that area which is private, remember we cross those tracks....very cautiously, lol!!
 

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the cop may may have made a mistake to cause the crash but i wouldnt say he did it to himself. if the little shithead kids wouldnt have ran the ranger off the road he wouldnt have been chasing them...
I don't trust cops at all so I seriously doubt that anybody caused anything other than the stupid cop crashed his car and found someone to take the heat. Cynical, but that's the way I see it at first glance.
 
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