I don't know if anyone has ridden a hill climb in Otisville, NY called the 9 step. I rode it on 5/14 and it's a bonafied hard ride getting there much less getting up it, didn't yet. I just bought Elka stage 2 w/ compression & stage 3 in back. All for $1764.68 including delivery (no tax in NY) from www.hondaeastsuperstore.com. I think thats pretty sweet & they are discounting more than the website shows. He also said they're the 4th largest honda dealer in the country & sell all other brands except KTM. Whew, that sucked typing on a PS3 controller.