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So a while back Kyle8ton had a thread:
http://www.club700xx.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2737
Well he did what he said he was going to do and developed a sway bar that is an OEM replacement! Not too long ago, I sent him a PM to see what ever happened to his Idea and he quickly got back to me that he had actually fabricated a prototype that he wanted tested out. We made some arrangements and soon I had the prototype bar and new mounting hardware/bushings!
I have since put about 163 miles on the new setup (50% trail, 35% technical XC, 15% Moto) and can report back to all of you what I have found:
First off the kit itself: The kit consists of (1) black powder-coated sway bar that is A LOT stiffer than the OEM one. This bar is a direct replacement and mounts in the same fashion as the OEM bar. New brackets and the corresponding bushings which are specifically made for sway bars are also included.
Installation: This is straight forward and will take between a half an hour and 45 minutes to complete. The fit was perfect! The new mounting brackets and bushings are necessary to accommodate the increased diameter of the bar. Everything lined up and there was no tweaking or modifications necessary for anything to fit. Linkage from the stock sway bar to the lower A-Arm is reused and once again the fit was flawless. (Note: I have taken this on and off a few times now in comparing it to the OEM bar and find it easiest to attach the linkage to the new bar off of the quad and then attaching it back to the a-arm while fitting the bar into position.) Also note if your sway bar rattles and you discover the linkage is worn now would be a good time to replace it.
And now for what everyone is waiting for:
The ride is completely different! For those of you who do not like the XX’s drastic body roll in corners this is definitely for you! Just turning it on the driveway while loading it onto the trailer for testing I noticed HUGE changes in the stability and turning ability of this machine-Push = 95% gone! And on the trails I found the same thing. It handles much more like a SRA quad however all articulation is not lost! Extremely easy to drift around corners and do donuts! (I was actually laughing doing donuts because of the difference) I am going to break this down a little further so I can capture the strengths and weaknesses a little better….
Trail: (Fire-road, logging trials…etc) Wonderful! I did about 60 miles of trail this past weekend with this bar and about the same with the stocker. I like this bar over the OEM bar due to the fast paced nature of these trails for me. I am not a leisure rider! I had a tremendous time flying down these trails and drifting through corners with all my SRA friends…but still had the comfort of the XX and Ground clearance!
XC: (Tight technical trails, harescramble style through hills, ravines, creeks, and woods) This one took some getting used to as I have adapted quite well to the XX and the riding style associated with it. I am a traction junkie and love what IRS offers. I also enjoy the extra articulation and the jarring that it saves my body. This being said with the sway bar some of that articulation is lost but high speed and low speed cornering is greatly increased. I personally prefer the “feel of the OEM sway bar” here but this is where facts have to come out. At Embarrass river ATV park there is a five mile loop that takes the quad through the paces and has about everything any track would offer. The OEM bar was a cushier ride….The new sway bar averaged 23 second better lap times! Just means I need to get in better shape now…
Moto track/Flat track: On tight flat and banked corners is where this thing shines!!! Cornering is Tons quicker! However jumping…and I am not a pro…requires you to land the jump squarer than with full IRS. (We won’t go into how I figured that one out….I don’t know if the OEM sway bar would have saved me either). Overall quicker on the moto track as well….sorry I don’t have #’s
Also note:
1.)Never did anything bind/rub/ or malfunction. 2.) Parts show no signs of wear…including the bushings 3.) I did not receive any prompting, my prototype bar was not free, I was encouraged to lay it all out good and the bad. 4.) Kyle as I have never met him, seems to be a stand up guy, great communication, and holds to his word. 5.) Any and all questions I can answer I will, Price, availability…is all Kyle I have nothing to do with any of that…I just want to provide you all with fair unbiased data.
Pictures attached are of Prototype bar and actual bushings….Production bar WILL be powder coated…This one is not!
(sorry about spelling and grammer)
 

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sweet how much did u pay. i love the stock look that make it look like a sleeper. when will it be in prodution
 

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Sounds like a pretty sweet deal. It beats having the giant high dollar swaybars out there.
ikr and even if its the same price ill get it over the over engineered, high maintnace sonic or drua-blue sway bars
 

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Sounds great, Where when and how much.

Regards Overlord
 

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i want one for mah bike, put me on the list. When do they come on sale?
 

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Thanks USMC0861

I wish I could let everyone test out this bar for free, but there are too many stories of people running off with products that were given as "test articles".

The bar is what it is, simple straight forward OEM replacement that is much stiffer.

I will be receiving the first 25 production bars tomorrow. I will be getting the remaining parts that will make up the kit next week. I will be ready for shipping on the 5th or 6th of July. If you guys want I will post these up on ebay (until I get a website up...) and you can order yours ( again only 25 available for now...) just know that I will not be able to ship until the 5th or 6th.

If these look like they will sell then I will look at a larger production run, the more that are made the cheaper they will get... so let your friends know.

Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

Kyle
 

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u should also sell a quick disconect that will work on the oem and your bar.... but i will most likey got one when i have the $$
 

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For the record...I paid all $200 for the prototype bar for testing...this money was given in good faith that I would review it and not just run off with it. Our understanding was he would refund my money if I decided I didn't want the bar....I'm keeping the bar! Any ride questions let me know....
 

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u should also sell a quick disconect that will work on the oem and your bar.... but i will most likey got one when i have the $$
I have been looking into a disconnect system even an electronic disconnect (pushbutton..) it would be more expensive but if there is enough interest I would definitely make it happen!
 

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Over engineered? High maintenance? Where are you getting that from?
ive read that u gota grease the sonic every 10hr and look at them. all they needed to do is do what this guy did. not make something with 4 differnt parts to the sway bar itself.
 

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this is the sonic sway bar
 

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ive read that u gota grease the sonic every 10hr and look at them. all they needed to do is do what this guy did. not make something with 4 differnt parts to the sway bar itself.
I agree that simplicity definitley has its benefits, but just from my experience your two statements were way off on the Sonic. Others could have had different experiences though. I am not going to say any more on this in this thread and take away from the original subject.
 

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man, that's awesome !! Nice job and good review guys...I wont lie, i wont be buying one soon, eventually may be an option, but for now with my quad sitting at 53" wide front and rear, i can do donuts on pavement with the stock bar, but wanted to say very cool product !!! I will definately let anyone know who asks because this looks like the trickest one out there because its so close to stock...

Are the bushings urethane ? And also will they be offered just black or what ?
 
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