Well this is a different type of competition. We all know the xx is the faster. I raced the kq and my launches would throw my front up and and I would pass him at the 45 mph mark with fronts still off ground(ok I wasn't really trying hard on the launch, all good fun). But what we did do is play follow the leader. I got winched out once after I made it about 75 yards farther than the 4x4. I was stuck and looked back and the kq was pretty much at the beginning. This mud was the really soupy bottomless type. I was able to stay on top and he didn't. The 300ex hit it harder than me and made it about 10 feet farther. He worked hard for the last 20, when mine sp7un out I stopped and let them winch me out. And just for fun I had the kq pace me on riding a wheelie, in the space provided I was able to ride one thru 62.