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I would like to know who here thinks we are being set up for a world government? (Where the Constitution is no longer valid.)
 

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Look, the Constitution only allows the Federal government to provide border security and arbitrate state disputes. Obviously what it is and what's right and legal got thrown out the window many, many years ago. Big Brother will do whatever it wants regardless of any useless Constitution and we'll do nothing about it. In summary, the Constitution is already no longer valid.
 

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So is your answer yes then? I know this is a touchy subject to some. I just wanted to know what others thought. This is while we still can now the FCC has come out and said the internet is now a public utility and will regulate it.
 

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Whether there is a world government depends on whether the most powerful individuals want one. We have no choice. The questions of whether that will happen or whether the Constitution will no longer be valid are two different questions because the Constitution is already no longer valid, whereas there is not yet a world government. Buy guns and party like it's 1999.
 

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i dont know if id say the constitution is no longer valid? you can still buy guns and have the right to party due to that peice of paper. im not sure exactly what your thought process was there but when you start to say its useless and throw your hands up, that is when the preverbial shit is gonna hit the fan and it will truely be useless. even tho it has been violated it is still in effect and as long at least a majority of the people still hold on to its ideas our govenment and are willing to fight for that peice of paper big brother cannot disregaurd it. its the people that are throwing up their hands that are truely throwing out the Constitution. i for one am willing to stand and fight for what i believe in wether its the Constitution or my family or anything in between. what we need is simply put more strong minded individuals willing to do more than say what they think but be willing to defend it to the death. IMO of course.
 

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I don't fight for a nonexistent Constitution any more. I fight for what it was built upon: a way of life and an ethical mode of thought. They will never ever take away guns because the Constitution granted the individual the right to bear arms. The individual, in Constitution terminology is synonymous with the modern term "State". This was to allow your state the right to defend itself from another. However, when the IRS was created it was provided the right to tax the individual also, meaning the State you live in, not you personally. Due to twisting of terminology and the complete and utter fabrication of a legal basis the IRS is now able to collect taxes from you as a single person, which is actually illegal according to the Constitution (further proving it is gone). If they say that guns were never intended to be granted to individual people, then they will also have to stop collecting taxes on individual people. We know this will never happen. Guns will ALWAYS be left in the hands of individual Americans so that the Federal government can continue illegally taxing you as an individual. You would have already lost the right to bear personal arms if it weren't for our good buddies at the IRS. If you believe that you are able to keep your guns because the Constitution says so then you are a bought and paid for pawn in my opinion. The key is to learn. The more people learn the more we have a chance of collectively bringing the Constitution back. Until people accept that it is just a staging platform and is actually not at all relevant, we will continue backsliding, thus making it harder and harder to ever recover it.
 

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how can you say the nonexistent-Constitution then, in the next sentence say they will never take guns because of the Constitution. in a way your entire post is contradicting itself. if the Constitution was no longer valid then it would not matter what it stated about individuals and State. the government could simply seperate the two terms and do as they wished and take our guns and still collect our taxes.
 

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how can you say the nonexistent-Constitution then, in the next sentence say they will never take guns because of the Constitution. in a way your entire post is contradicting itself. if the Constitution was no longer valid then it would not matter what it stated about individuals and State. the government could simply seperate the two terms and do as they wished and take our guns and still collect our taxes.
Because the "Constitution" is a platform for the Federal government to use. I'm saying that the term is still used to inflict what the Fed wishes. Their IRS is legal according to their "Constitution". Well, so are guns. That's what I'm saying. The real Constitution does not provide you the right to have guns in your home unless your state government allows it. You would be considered a member of its state militia. The real Constitution does not in any way mention what the state can or cannot do to regulate your personal use of guns. It only mentions that the Federal government has to maintain the right of each state to defend itself with its own militia. The concept of the Federal government even talking to us about our personal firearms as if they have any right is complete insanity. It goes on because nobody knows the difference anymore.
 

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the 2nd admendment to the constitution states seperatly that we have the right to bear arms and a free states right to a militia this appears to me to be two seperate things i do not see where the people are being refered to as a state? and just to be clear im on the same team as you so im not trying to pick on you or target you just entertaining myself :)

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 

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One thing I do believe, is that our current situation is mostly caused by our doing. People have lost their morels and values. There's nothing but greed and entitlement. Education is lost and manipulated. I do believe in the constitution and undoubtly will die a free man. I'm a red blooded American and not one of the sheeple. Most people I run into on quads seem to be fairly conservetive so I wanted to see who is really informed. Not just by the government controlled media.
 

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Believing in the Constitution does not mean it's still there. I'm not trying to be a jerk by saying this guys. What I'm telling you is that it's already gone. If you want it back, that's another story.

Here in KY there was a round table discussion on the public broadcasting network (KET) yesterday. There were four guys there who are running in the Republican US Senate primary. The typical installed douche bag pawns, Rand Paul and Trey Grayson, along with a Bible thumping guy and this super old man who has no chance in hell. Oddly, the conversation rarely went to the old guy because nobody wanted to hear what he had to say. What was he saying? Basically that the two douches weren't real Republicans and also that the Federal government had no business being in anything that the discussion covered. Thus, he was treated like a quack and dismissed. The reality is that Republicans, by definition, do not embrace the Federal government in any way whatsoever and believe that most of the government should be shut down and done away with. Conservative and Republican do not mean what they used to mean because they are not used in the proper context. But then neither does the term Democrat mean the same thing. For example, look at today's outrage over race and immigration issues that the Democrat party claims as their own. Look at how conservatives are made out to be racists constantly. Then read this:

http://www.black-and-right.com/the-democrat-race-lie/
 

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the 2nd admendment to the constitution states seperatly that we have the right to bear arms and a free states right to a militia this appears to me to be two seperate things i do not see where the people are being refered to as a state? and just to be clear im on the same team as you so im not trying to pick on you or target you just entertaining myself :)

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I misspoke trying to whip out more than I had time to accurately state. Sorry. The "state" is the Federal government in the Constitution. The "individual" is what we call our states. When they say individuals may bear arms, it literally means your state, not you or me. Likewise, an amendment to the Constitution states that the IRS may tax the individual. This does NOT mean you and me. Think about it for a second. The Federal government was created to handle issues that the Federation needed a central body to handle, coordinated defense and arbitration of interstate disputes. Why would the Federal government address me? That's not what they do. They address my state, or Commonwealth actually because my state cooperatively created them to assist in larger matters. A simple rule of thumb is: when the Federal government speaks in any way, shape, or form to you as a single person, you know it is not legal and that it should be stopped immediately. If the Fed wants something, they have to bring it up with the state that you live in, not you.
 

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I would like to know who here thinks we are being set up for a world government? (Where the Constitution is no longer valid.)

Who is setting us up for this? Why would you think this?
 

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I have been searching things for the last 2 years when I got a gut feeling something was very wrong. I was always interested in conspiracy theories. Many of the things that were conspiracy then are now coming true. I could give you many topics to do a search on your own and I think many would be shocked. One thing that is clear is that our government is bleeding us dry of our wealth. All these bailouts, ours, big business, and now other countries are the worlds biggest ponzi scheme ever. They have not done anything with our money that they said they were going to do with it. The government are the front men for big banks (foreign and domestic) and super elite. Now that Greece has been bailed out by the federal reserve and IMF, they now control their governments. This is just one way they are gradually taking over. This structure that they are building has been being built for a very long time. I'm not here trying to stir up anything, or fight with anyone. I would just like to inform people their country is being stolen from them. Prepare for the worst and hope and prey for the best. Before anyone asks me any questions, do a search for yourself and see what you find. There is so much to this, I could keep going on and on. Keep an open mind and use common sense, because what I thought couldn't happen here in our country, is happening.
 

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Well if you can't beat em join em. Everyone send me your money. Please send via Paypal as if you decide you want a refund your shit outta luck. Me and Pinky are going to take over the World!
 

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Well if you can't beat em join em. Everyone send me your money. Please send via Paypal as if you decide you want a refund your shit outta luck. Me and Pinky are going to take over the World!
:funny: lol i need your email to send you funds via paypal, would you like monthly instalments of $3000 or one lump sum?
 

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well how bout multiple payments of 1100 cuz when u go to the casino u dont have to pay taxes on it unless u win over 1200.
 
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