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waving A question about gasoline brands

Is one brand of gasoline better than another? Is there a difference in quality between brands.

I worked in the refining industry for many many years and know the correct answer... But will see what you all have to say first before I post the answer.

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Well according to the small engine repair shop I go to, there is a big difference. They recommend a few places like Marathon, Sunoco and I forget the other one maybe shell, hell IDK. Looking forward to the rest of the inside scoop.

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I`ve tried all brands, I just use super unleaded (91) 92 or 93 if you can find....I went as far as to use 87 in a few races and found the longer i used it the motor started to run ruff.
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I know in Vegas, all gas is the same. There is a pipeline from Southern California that all the gasoline for the valley gets pumped through. The only difference between brands is what each company adds to it. All brands pick up the fuel from the same place, then takes it to their distribution center and adds their additives, then off to their stations.

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I know in Vegas, all gas is the same. There is a pipeline from Southern California that all the gasoline for the valley gets pumped through. The only difference between brands is what each company adds to it. All brands pick up the fuel from the same place, then takes it to their distribution center and adds their additives, then off to their stations.

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Bingo!!

As gasoline leaves a refinery, it is all the same, then goes into a common pipeline that does not belong to a certain brand. This pipeline carries gasoline for many different brands. Example: Exxon puts in 100K barrels in the Texas Gulf coast and sends it on it's way to Ohio for example. Exxon does not need to wait the 7-8 days for THEIR gasoline to get there. Exxon can draw from the pipeline immediately as they have a 100K barrel electronic credit... So, the gasoline they actually draw may in fact be gasoline that BP or another brand put into the pipeline a week earlier. There is NO incentive for Exxon the make their gasoline better than another brand as they cannot know they are getting their own gasoline from the other end of the pipeline. Because of this, all gasoline must meet Federal minimum standards, which is what they do. But, to exceed those standards, not gonna happen.

The difference in brands does come from the additives... "Techtron" or "Nitrogen Enriched". But even with these different NAMES for the additives from different brands. You need to remember that Exxon still needs to remain competitively priced to other brands. So, they are not going to develop an additive that ends up making their gas cost more than another brand. In general, the buying public will only look at the comparative cost of a brand to them at the pump. Giving an additive a fancy name does NOT mean that it's better or really different from another brand's fancy named additive. If a company was really to develop an additive that really made a big difference, we'd all hear about it and not from the oil companies.

Think about it.... What is "Techtron" or better yet, "Nitrogen Enriched"?.... WTF, nitrogen is an inert gas.

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Thanks for the information Roadkill. I was not aware that gasoline companies did that. Having family in the Natural Gas Industry, I do know that Natural Gas and Propane follow the same principle for the most part. Where it doesn't, is when there is one company that owns the whole lot, and just has his little companies which he owns for competition.

However, I have noticed that when I use Shell "N2 Enriched", that I get better MPG's with both my trucks and motorcycles. Roughly one mile more to the gallon in my trucks, and between 4 and 5 in my rockets. I have no way to prove this on the quads however, because the riding is completely different.

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Nitrogen - Insert from Examiner

The sports car community is concerned that nitrogen enriched fuels will harm your forced induction vehicle if is tuned to run 90-100% injector cycle. Some say that the minimum octane rating will still be the same, therefore no ECU adjustment will occur and it is perfectly okay to use this fuel. If the majority is correct, this fuel could cause lean conditions and your ECU will want to increase injector duty cycle to make up for non-flammable gas. If you are already running your maximum injector cycle and don't have enough to compensate for the change, a lean condition could possibly occur. Make sure you have plenty of injector duty left and keep an eye on your AFR's while running this fuel until further evidence is released confirming the science behind this new fuel.

Continue reading on Examiner.com Nitrogen Enriched Gasoline - Tampa Bay sports car | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/sports-car-i...#ixzz1pldPeRR2
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Thanks for the information Roadkill. I was not aware that gasoline companies did that. Having family in the Natural Gas Industry, I do know that Natural Gas and Propane follow the same principle for the most part. Where it doesn't, is when there is one company that owns the whole lot, and just has his little companies which he owns for competition.

However, I have noticed that when I use Shell "N2 Enriched", that I get better MPG's with both my trucks and motorcycles. Roughly one mile more to the gallon in my trucks, and between 4 and 5 in my rockets. I have no way to prove this on the quads however, because the riding is completely different.
That's interesting to hear about Shell's N2 Enriched additive because you'd think that enriching gas with an inert gas wouldn't help combustion at all... go figure.

Another note: Even if the gas is NOT put into a common pipeline, but just pumped to a local distribution center to be into tanker truck for delivery to local stations... the gasoline still leaves the refinery the same. The additives are added at the distribution centers weather they are 1/4 mile away or a thousand miles away.

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