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post #1 of 13 Old 06-01-2013, 12:27 PM Thread Starter
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Diet for the xx

I read a little bit about saving weight on this pig. I know Baxter knows probably the most about it but from searching and reading I could only see about 25 to 30 lbs savings happening with basic removal of things and lighter shocks etc. has anyone actually figured out why this thing weighs more than say a raptor 700? I know everyone says its the IRS but is is been actually weighed compared to say a raptor solid rear? I can't believe the IRS is adding that much more weight. I can see it adding some but 100ish pounds more? There's got to be something. Is it the frame. Maybe this winter I'll tear my bike down and try to so some weight comparisons to my brothers raptor 700 if he lets me tear it down. And get some real numbers.

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post #2 of 13 Old 06-01-2013, 10:22 PM
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I figured out how to shed a lot of weight from my XX. It is easy to find and 100% guaranteed to make your machine go really fast.
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I would guess it is a combination of the IRS (and related frame components) and Honda's centered drive chain design.

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Think about the IRS, two A-arms are probably about the weight of a swing arm, you have twice the shocks, plus where the chain and sprocket are, that whole assembly probably weighs as much as a swing arm. Plus the frame goes back farther on the XX so you can mount everything to. Plus as Rkangel said, the center drive probably adds some.

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Honda basically added weight every where for strength and mainly reliability. There's not something you can take off and suddenly loose 20lbs (within reason). When you compare the 700xx parts to say a TRX450r parts , you relise how Honda beefed alot of products up. Like 700xx front spindles and hubs are roughly 3/4lb heavier than the 450r ones and removing 4th , 5th gear completely plus a few tweeks removes 2lbish from the gearbox. I'll get some pics up later of a 700xx first gear and a 05 450r first gear . There's a big differance and as for a diet on the 700xx , it can be done, I think close to a stock Raptor weight. That's the goal anyway. Starting the build in the off season.

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Sprocket #1 is reverse,#2 is 1st in a 700xx and #3 1st in a 450r.

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Baxter,
Thanks for the comparison of the gears. That difference is truly significant. I am amazed at the huge amount of web material on the XX gears. The shaft size is way different. I've never seen a side-by-side of anything internal to the XX.
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I had a Poooolaris 525 IRS and it only weighed about #400. But it was a continually broken POS. I am guessing that the weight added on the XX is not necessarily the IRS but elsewhere in the frame, stronger engine/trans components.

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I like seeing the comparison of the gears but would truly like to see them compared to a 700r gears since try are more alike in terms of engine displacement size. I just don't know if the IRS on the xx compared to the solid axle on the 700r is a lot of weight difference. I would like to see them both weighed individually too see what difference the IRS to its solid axle is. Just curious is all. I think I might take my xx and my brothers 700r to a weight station to get a weight on each. Anyone know how precise those highway weigh stations are when weighing something under 1000lbs?

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