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starter dragging

just wondered if this is common ? starter drags sometimes when i crank the 700... i check the battery voltage.. its 12.7... this 700 i got used but it had very low hours on it.. i think ive put more on it in 2 months than it had ever had.. so let me know if anyone else is haveing this problem..
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Starter maybe corroded on the inside causing voltage loss and thus causing the dragging


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i was hoping not... i did put it on charge... it went to 13.1 after setting on day off charge... when running i got 14.2... so maybe it will help,,,its doing better now but i dont think a charge is going to fix it.. will see this w/e we are doing a night ride
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I am actually in the process of posting something involving this. Mine started doing the same thing I think. Does yours stop, kind of as if the starter doesn't have enough power to turn the engine over on the compression stroke? That's what mine does. I just let off the starter button and hit it again and it works fine though. But I'd still like to address the problem before it gets worse, if it gets worse. I thought it was the battery at first, but I've been riding it so if the battery was low it should be charged now.

Also, if I adjust my valves it seems to change. If I tighten the valves I don't get that drag anymore, but it takes more cranks to start, which I'm sure isn't good. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the decompression mechanism? Maybe it's not opening on the compression stroke and the starter is having a hard time turning the engine over? I'm not sure. If you make any progress let me know.
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I am actually in the process of posting something involving this. Mine started doing the same thing I think. Does yours stop, kind of as if the starter doesn't have enough power to turn the engine over on the compression stroke? That's what mine does. I just let off the starter button and hit it again and it works fine though. But I'd still like to address the problem before it gets worse, if it gets worse. I thought it was the battery at first, but I've been riding it so if the battery was low it should be charged now.

Also, if I adjust my valves it seems to change. If I tighten the valves I don't get that drag anymore, but it takes more cranks to start, which I'm sure isn't good. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the decompression mechanism? Maybe it's not opening on the compression stroke and the starter is having a hard time turning the engine over? I'm not sure. If you make any progress let me know.
thats the same problem im having... my only gess maybe a battery with more cold cranking amps ??? you right about the decompression... if its giving problems then that would cause this... im hoping someone will chime in on this fix.... kinda sucks to hear your buddies crank and go...
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This may sound stupid, but does it do the same thing if you start it in neutral. The clutch may be dragging which could potentially cause slower cranking.

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So I believd i found the problem! If your problem is the same as mine (which it sounds like it is), check your valve clearance. The valve clearance is most important here in the RIGHT EXHUAST valve (the one on the side closest to your throttle). If that valve is way out of spec, the decompression mechanism will be inneffective. However if you over tighten it, you will loose too much compression, which is a big no no. What helped me alot was doing some compression checks while adjustimg that vavle. If you have one (or go get one) make sure the cranking compression is around 65- 70psi. If yours is loose like mine was its probably around 90 or so.

Let me know id you need some more info or help, id be glad to give some advice, fixed my problem right up.
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yes i did my valves this afternoon... all is good now....
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So I believd i found the problem! If your problem is the same as mine (which it sounds like it is), check your valve clearance. The valve clearance is most important here in the RIGHT EXHUAST valve (the one on the side closest to your throttle). If that valve is way out of spec, the decompression mechanism will be inneffective. However if you over tighten it, you will loose too much compression, which is a big no no. What helped me alot was doing some compression checks while adjustimg that vavle. If you have one (or go get one) make sure the cranking compression is around 65- 70psi. If yours is loose like mine was its probably around 90 or so.

Let me know id you need some more info or help, id be glad to give some advice, fixed my problem right up.
well mine is in the 90s but cranks alot better.. no stalling the starter.. i did the compression test after i read your post... so is it fine now ? it cranks with no problems...
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I sent you a PM!

But yea, I say your fine as long as it starts good. The manual also suggests to do compression tests with the throttle wide open. I'm not sure how much of a difference that makes though.

Let me know if you come across any other problems with it though.
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